Vitali Klitschko vs Joe Frazier

6.10 of this clip.

[url]https://youtu.be/Zc5a4N9c_T8?t=376[/url]

So lets get this straight!!!

You are actually moronically inbred enough to claim that HBO employ a man to INVENT interpretations. No matter what happened, it is this guys job to CLAIM Klitchko quit, even though in your imbecilic brain, he didn't?

Do you even know how incredibly fuking stupid that garbage is? Translators get PAID to translate. They don't actually NEED to give a fuk about what it is they are translating. Why would a man working for a fee care less what anyone in the corner said?

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Not being funny son ( well I am as it goes ) reading your sh it, people can see HOW there was a dominant Stalin, and Hitler 80 years ago.

As for your complete lack of knowledge regarding sound engineering, suffice to say you know less than pig sh it. Mic's do NOT get held to the mouths of trainers. These are what are known as BOOM mic's, they will pick up EVERYTHING everyone says in the corner.

 

Just like Lewis being koed by single shots twice is a black mark on his record Vitali quitting on his stool because he shoulder hurts too much is also.

Frazier never spoke to Futch again for stoping his bout with Ali in a fight where Joe was hopelessly behind, beaten to a pulp, staggering, blind, exhausted, with his mouth pouring blood. If you cannot see the difference then I don't know what else to say.

SRR was unconscious on his stool when his bout was stopped vs Maxim.

Toughness, heart, the ability to fight through pain and exhaustion are paramount qualities for an ATG fighter. It's these qualities among others historians look for when rating fighters all time.

 

its nothing to do with my fantasy, vitalis career is built on losing to lewis, that's the only type of fighter wlad hasn't got.

why would I fantasise about someone I am not a fan of? failed argument.

nevertheless hhis ability didn't change overnight, so, flop mate.

if this LHW guy was a top opponent for wlad, he certainly was for vitali.

 

how on earth would I be physician ringside? why are you actually asking that? what a ridiculous thing to ask.

yeah I have no problem with him quitting for a bad injury on a personal level either, I'd quit too, but its poor compared to other boxers in the category you are trying to place vits.

 

superficial thinking??

you are the one who is claiming that byrd ability changed almost overnight after winning one fight.

no he was the same byrd who fought vitali.

 

on the contrary, you have to explain yourself.



are you claiming it was stopped for a torn rotator cuff or not, instead another previous injury? You appear to be claiming it was not a torn cuff, but a previous injury from training.

 

I don't think anyone can be as naturally stupid as you are. It takes hard work and determination I'll give you that.

We know why you lie about this incident because you are ( in your mind ) defending the honour of one of your heroes.

So explain why a translator would lie? What is in it for him?

According to your imbecilic train of thought either the man lied to HBO when he told them he could understand and speak Russian, Ukraine, German, or ALL of them, or he lied by deliberately misquoting Klitchko saying he was quitting due to his shoulder " hurting too much. "

Again, what was in it for him? Are you too stupid to realise it would only take a few complaints to the TV company and the guys reputation would be in tatters? He would probably never get television work again, or the fees that go with it.atsch

 

the point being, you claim he retired due to the rotator cuff.

can you focus on answering that , noone needs all the extra fluff.

just answer YES or NO.

 

I see Joe winning this fight, esp Joe of 71. If a fighter as fast as Ali was during that time (he wasn't the same with foot speed, but his handspeed was still great ,and he hit harder because he was flat footed more.) had a hard time landing cleanly on Joe for 15 rds. Imagine how he could make Klitsckoe miss. Plus, we've seen both Klitskoes knocked out by very average fighters. Pllus neither has ever fought a fighter that had the ability to put constant pressure on them. Hell I could see Joe making him find a reason to quit.

 

so there was no visible damage - how did they know to stop it without input form vits?

because it was a previous injury? they said to vits, NO its a previous injury we stop now but vits said no I want to box on its fine?

 

Really? When was Vitali ever knocked out? He quit against Byrd, and was stooped on a cut by Lewis. I don't think he was ever KO'd in a BOXING ring.

If you count the loss to Pele Reid at kick boxing then yeah, he was average, but I don't think many would agree that Byrd and Lewis were merely " average. "

 

I assumed we were talking about the pro ranks.