Vitali Klitschko vs Joe Louis

I have to say that I was more than impressed by Vitally Klitschkos demolition of Sam Peter which was a masterfull display. It is not lost on me that I did not think that he could recover his previous form and picked Peter to beat him.

It is important to note however that Peter is the best fighter Vitally Klitschko has beaten to date by a substantial margin.

He isnt ready for Louis just yet.

 

It was a good display, but Peter was as poor as Vitasli was impressive. In a way Vitali made him look so I suppose.

 

Louis by mid round stoppage, Vitali is good but he hasn't shown anything to say he would beat Louis.

 

What is funny is your analysis. A few things for the open minded who want to learn:

Carnera was washed up when he meet Louis. Louis pounded on a guy not known for taking a good punch for six rounds. How shot was Primo? The next quality fighter Carnera fought who was well below Louis in ability stopped in him half the amount of time Louis did.

Carnera had a faster and better jab than Vitali? Get a clue. Vitlai's jab was MUCH better and faster.

I see you called Corrie Sanders a slow fighter. Why I am not surprised.

Vitlai is not sucker. He keeps his range. He rarely if ever walks into to punches. At least see Vitlai has good footwork, faster than Louis does for sure.

In this fight, Louis would have to get past Vitlai's long jab and right hand to score, other wise he cannot win, so who is going to walk into something?

Think about that, oh wait your not good at being objective or thinking.

No need to go on much further, but if you want to debate me on what is on and not on films we can both see, just let me know

 

There is no evidence to suggest this.

 

Hard to believe Carnera was even able to climb between the ropes at the positively venerable age of 28, an entire year after he lost the title.

Vitali is a good boxer-puncher for a 6'8", 245-pound heavyweight. Comparing him to guys like Jersey Joe Walcott and Arturo Godoy on that grounds is a little ridiculous, arguably moreso than comparing him to Carnera on the grounds that they were both large and world-class. For all his admittedly-impressive skills, Vitali is stiff. He's not a flexible, shifty, fleet-footed mover like a Billy Conn or Jersey Joe Walcott. He can outmaneuever lead-footed opponents like Samuel Peter and Danny Williams, but he's certainly not about to lead a tap-dancing show. Vitali wouldn't be able to stick-and-move Louis or somesuch. Compared with a speedy, shifty 190-pounder, he virtually stands still in there. This isn't to say that his combination of imposing size with legitimate skill, durability and relative coordination wouldn't pose a serious threat to Louis; I don't doubt that it would. But Vitali Klitschko is not about to pull a Jersey Joe Walcott on Louis by any stretch of the imagination.

 

No, the next quality fighter Carnera faced was Walter Neusel, in his next fight after Louis, which he won by fourth-round TKO. Neusel was 43-3-5 going into this fight, and he beat guys like Tommy Loughran, Larry Gains and Max Schmeling. Carnera had won his last four fights since losing the title, and went on to win his next four afterwards. There isn't any clear evidence that he was declining until close to a year after the Louis fight.

For what it's worth, Sanders was in terrible shape for this fight and was, in fact, very slow after about the second round, in which he began breathing out of his mouth and resting on the ropes.

 

Louis imo

 

Hold on. Carnera had 89 fights before he meet Louis, and because da' Prime was never known for defense he took a lot of leather. Carnera fought Louis in 1935. From 1936-1937, Carnera had 5 fights, and he was 2 wins, 3 losses, and KO'd two times. Carnera hung up the gloves for years in 1937 at age 31. He was in decline before he fought Louis. You could argue the beating Max Baer gave Carnera pushed Carnera over the hill

You're right. Vitlai is far more dominant in the ring than either Walcott or Godoy, who lest we forget dropped decisions to journeyman or fringe contender types. And speak of Godoy and Walcott, I have seen all there is to see on the 4 fights, and Joe Louis should be 2-2 vs them.

Why not? Louis was a predictable shuffler, Marciano_Frazier. Louis had perhaps the slowest feet of any ATG heavyweight, and was not on balance always either. Louis was the type who needed to set his feet to deliver bombs. Vitlai would tower over Louis, own roughly a 6” height and a 4"’ reach advantage. Louis is not wining a boxing contest here. The question remains, is Louis fast enough to get angles on Vitlai. Based on what I have seen on film, I do not see that happening too often. Louis low guard and so-so defense also means he's going to get hit a lot from Vitlai.

Maybe a Max Schemling then. Seriously, this is not an easy fight for Louis. Once again, in the ring, Vitlai dominance on the score cards dwarf's Walcott, and is better than Louis'. Guys like Tommy Farr won 6-7 rounds vs a prime Louis. Can this board watch the films and be truthful?

 

You could argue all these things but they are speculative at best.

 

Mendoza i totally agree this is very hard for Joe. Im actually a Vitali fan somewhat, i really like him, always have, i truthfuly say im not biased towards any fighters though i believe. I do have to pick Louis ultimately sorry, call me what you will for that! Kidding, but Vitali certainly has some ring presence, and a chin aswell, a very good one. Louis winning this takes something special i think.

 

Thanks. For the record I'm fine with any pick within reason. I just see too many false hoods, and and lack of understanding on how styles makes fights on some of the stuff written in this thread.

 

I like Louis by a UD unless Vitali cuts. I think Vitali with his awkward style would be trouble for Louis and his power is no joke but Louis was the best combo puncher and he had a great jab also. Vitali would have to keep his hands a lot higher to gaurd his chin than he did vs Peter and I see it as a close UD 15 for Louis