Vitali Klitschko vs Ken Norton

I mentioned it to eliminate the probability of a Norton KO win and feel that my points were valid enough. As for him taking a decision, I've already commented on why I don't think he would earlier in this thread and maintain that position.

 

You are making a good case Mr M. I respect that:good

 

sure, AND we were discussing between us vitali taking lewis bombs - vits took lewis bombs for about as long as most of lewis resume managed, so by that evidence vits chin is fair but far from great. I'm claiming more than that, vitalis has a good chin, so it seems tyou are ruining your argument whilst I'm boosting it.

you must know Iunderstood this, why u explaining it? my question is WHY are you arguing against a Norton stoppage, hes unlikely to stop vits.

 

nortons not likely to stop vits, anyone knows this.

except on tko of course, that's a possible, it happened on both occasions that vitali stepped up.

 

No... I only listed Lewis as ONE of the punchers Vitali's chin stood up to as part of an earlier argument, and you decided to make an entirely different debate over it.. And in the end it was a cut and a fight doctor which ended the contest and not a chin that gave out.

I only made a case about it as part of my argument which you decided to pick apart with the whole Lewis thing... Fine we agree... Not stoppage for Norton..

 

Thank you.

 

6 rounds, same as many lasted vs lewis nothing more, chump, don't pretend its more than that.

definitely, no one sane would think Norton has a good chance of stopping him by KO (although TKO remains a distinct poss).

 

Most of those other guys were either KTFO or beaten to the point of being defenseless. Not the case for Vitali. He was trading at point blank with Lewis taking bigger shots then a lot of other guys even got hit with regardless of how long they lasted.

A TKO possibility is only logical if you believe that he tears a rotator cuff at the exact same time, place and severity as he did against Byrd, or a cut opened up with the exact same perfectly placed shot that Lewis hit him with possessing the same level of power precisition and not to mention follow up to make it worse. If you believe Ken would win this lottery then yes... Its possible..

 

None of those fights prove the sturdiness of Vitali's chin.
Those bums were so poor , they never got close to landing any leather on him.

How do credit the man for having a solid chin in bouts where he received next to no punches:huh

Only Sanders on that list hit him and when he connected , Vitali ran around the ring like a little girl.
The film does not lie. I didn't see Rahman falter like that when a much , faster and better version of Sanders hit him with the kitchen sink.

He only hit Vits once.

The Vitlali iron chin is the biggest myth in boxing.

His mythicial chin is based off a fight he LOST by STOPPAGE. That is not the basis of an iron chin.

 

By getting dropped? Against the worst Sannders that ever stepped foot in a ring:huh

 

Time to shut the thread down.. fvcking Dino is here.

 

Norton, outboxes the robot. V. klit had no one punch ko power. So, Norton would have done well in this match up. Prime vs Prime.

 

The size part wasn't the part I was questioning. It was the part about Norton being a far better H2H heavyweight. I'm not so certain he'd be that much of a favorite to beat Byrd based on the Young fight. It's winnable, but I don't think it'd be a dominant win and it's not a surefire loss for Byrd by any stretch.

Different argument for a different day, though.

At the end of it, Norton got KO'd by lesser punchers than Vitali, never beat a better puncher than Vitali, and had a terrible habit of freezing when he got hit. And he would get hit against Vitali. It's that freezing habit once that happens that'd cost him dearly. Stranger things have happened than Norton beating Vitali and it's silly to speak in absolutes, but I'd favor Vitali here.

 

Prime for prime Norton was clear as day a MUCH better fighter than Byrd, do you really think Byrd could have done as well against Ali and Holmes as Ken did?

 

It's not only possible, it's inevitable. Everybody knows that in H2H matchups Vitali's rotator cuff is held in place by a piece of string and some gum. They have to be careful when they take his robe off that they don't tug that arm clean off :roll: