Vitali Klitschko vs Larry Holmes

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Vitali vs Larry

  1. Larry decision

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  2. Larry stoppage

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  3. Vitali decision

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  4. Vitali stoppage

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  1. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    @Ney 's dream fight
    Who wins?
     
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  2. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can I judge it I will give it to Klitschko just to see Holmes’ reaction.
     
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  3. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wretched fight, though. The most exciting part of the whole affair will be me running along ringside booing each of them alternatingly.
     
  4. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    Maybe you'd be able to top Ali's chant of, "Play the ropes!"
     
  5. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    Holmes. Hard fight, easy decision.
     
  6. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wouldn’t lose a minute of this fight & I’d hate him all the more for it.
     
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  7. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    You and Holmes would get into a game of verbal fisticuffs at the press conference post fight, and Vitali would have to apologize to your family for his wife's outburst.
     
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  8. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’d certainly try. The post-fight would see Larry try to drop kick me in the parking lot but I’ve seen this move before & would be ready for him.
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Met Holmes on multiple occasions. Couldn't have been nicer if he tried. When my wife told him I've been a fan since 78 he started light hearted teasing me. Couldn't believe it. Very cool guy funny too
     
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  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vitali doesn't have a good jab and hes too robotic for the much faster athletic Holmes.

    Holmes by UD.

    Wladimir would be a much more challenging opponent as he does have a good jab and KO power in his right hand which was a bit of weakness for Holmes.
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Vitali decision. Vitali won rounds way more consistently than Holmes ever did. No razor close decisions against the Carl Williamses and green Witherspoons of his day. He was even way up against Byrd with a torn rotator cuff.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vitali was not way up against Byrd despite what the judges had it in Vitali's backyard in Germany. Plus Vitali had all the advantages and still couldn't win, Byrd had a weeks notice was fighting in Vitali's backyard aswell as being the much smaller man.

    Byrd after a slow start was turning the fight round by the 5th round and had Vitali gassed by the end. The fight was close and competitive Byrd landed at a much higher percentage and the overall punchstats only had a few punches separating them.

    As for Holmes's close decisions it's funny you mention Witherspoon because Witherspoon would be the best opponent Vitali ever beat. So it seems weird to me you're criticising Holmes for having a competitive fight vs Witherspoon who peaked vs Holmes, when Vitali's best win is arguably Samuel Peter or a 38 year old inactive out of shape Corrie Sanders.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Witherspoon passed his audition for Holmes by getting a MD against Snipes and hadn’t done anything else. No need to even name the guys Vitali beat who were way more respected. You’re just giving props because Holmes failed to dominate him like Vitali did everyone.

    Vitali was up by seven rounds on one card and five on two others against Byrd with a TORN ROTATOR CUFF. He wasn’t even at his peak yet either.

    Aren’t you the guy who said Richard Hall was beating Dariusz? You should probably defer to the official judges.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah and when did Witherspoon fight at a higher level than he did vs Holmes ? i'll wait for the answer.

    No you're talking out your behind claiming this and that without actually naming the opponents so i'll do it for you.

    Samuel Peter
    38 year inactive Corrie Sanders
    Tomasz Adamek
    Chris Arreola
    260 pound Kirk Johnson and i'll quote Larry Merchant = That whale just got harpooned.

    Those are Vitali's most notable wins correct ? i doubt Holmes would lose many rounds to that opposition. And i don't think a prime Holmes would lose to Chris Byrd with 1 weeks notice or an out of shape Lennox Lewis at the end of his career either.

    Yes and i said it was in Vitali's backyard in Germany people often claim Vitali was dominating and was well ahead on points but that's false narrative. Byrd won more rounds in the 2nd half of the fight and landed 44 percent of his punches compared to 26 percent for Vitali which means Byrd made Vitali miss alot and had almost double the connect rate percentage.

    As for the torn rotator cuff Byrd made Vitali miss and punch at awkward angles being one of the reasons Byrd prompted the injury like he did vs Holyfield.

    If you're going to accuse me of saying something get it right, no i never said Hall was beating Michalczewski on points i said it was a life and death struggle. And Michalczewski benefitted from the stoppage as his face was a total mess i never said he was behind on points no.

    And after some of your bizarre scoring and opinions i don't think you're one to talk my guy.
     
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