Vitali Klitschko vs. Muhammad Ali

Since this isn't the GF and the Klithuggers need more support in getting out the vote here's some hometown help for Vit (it is about Wlad but it is nearly the same thing really <g>). More than a few good GF type points to get the ball rolling ...

Vladimir Klitschko much better than Muhammad Ali

I really love boxing. This was huge sport in Soviet Union. My friend from army was name Yuri. We both went to army together as young boys to be trained as infantry. Because our schooling was in mechanics, we were spared ground duty in Afghanastan. Instead we spent long hours on base in very hot weather working on ground vehicles. Many hours we spent talking about sports and our favorites were always boxing. Olympic boxing was so much better during days of Soviet Union compared to now. Then, they fought hard and well. Today, too much padding around head and no more knockouts. Best matchups were always against Americans. Almost always, Soviet Union won but not all the time. Gold medal in boxing always mean becoming huge hero in Soviet Union.

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Both were considered best of their time. Both win gold medals in Olympics. And both are huge heros in their countries. Klitschko has many homes all over but he will always be Soviet Union to me. His father was important man in army but I did not know him.

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and that gives him big advantage over the smaller Ali.

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to beat Ali.

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. Unlike Klitschko, he never got doctor degree. Ali did not even pass army test and then refused to go into army because of Vietnam. I don't agree with not fighting for your country. In Soviet Union, this is act of traitor. People just didn't do this. They go to work camp and never seen again. Yuri hated army but I didn't mind because I was doing my best for Soviet Union. Klitschko is in military family and I like that very much. This makes man stronger in ring. Ali boxed much to long. His last fight was big news in Soviet Union because he was nearly killed. Now he is sick and old. I liked very much how Ali used to talk but it is sad to listen to him now. Even though I did not agree with Ali on war, I understood his big fear of fighting. Not all men can fight in army. I must make it clear that I did not fight in Afghanastan. I had a weapon but never fired it. Instead I worked on cars and trucks for soldiers. I always did my best because they were brave and needed my best work to fight against enemy. It is funny to me that Americans used to hate Soviet Union for fighting in Afghanastan. Huge misunderstanding. Taliban was never freedom fighters like Americans wanted to believe back than. Now America understands that they were terrorists but it is sadly to late. Soviet Union was never fooled by terrorists like United States was at that time. If two countries worked together instead of cold war, maybe no more terrorists today. We will never know but it is what I think. I remember Yuri telling me that Americans were also in Afghanastan helping our enemy but I never saw any so I did not believe him. Instead we talk about boxing because we did not want to fight over politics that we had no control over anyways. We were different in thinking but best of friends. I don't understand why Vladimir changed his name to Wladimir to sound more German. And he fights to much in Germany. Either fight in America for more money or go and fight in Russia to make people very happy. And maybe also in Ukraine which used to be Soviet Union.

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so basically this poster thinks that just because wlad has a phd and is from the soviet union, he can beat ali?? wow, just wow.

 

I am assuming we are talking prime Ali here. Yes, he would win but he didn't have the pop to stop Vit unless on a vicious cut. Vit could land his share and control his share of rounds but not as many as Ali. Then again, who would you pick over a prime Ali?

 

Given that Ali's done EXACTLY THAT to opponents, then yeah I'd say any sensible person can bank on that.

:yep :good

 

I think Ali would take this by decision. But I don't buy all that nonsense that he would destroy Vitali though I'm am a huge Ali fan.

 

quote "Ali was not that smart" i didn't read anymore.... who gives these losers the time of day.

 

Wake up doofus. I didn't write that post.

As for ignorance, I highly doubt that. I was with Arthur Andersen, Coopers & Lybrand, and a fortune 200 as a tax accountant, auditor, accounting manager, and divisional controller before "retiring" in my early 30s. I have been an equity trader for myself for the past nearly fifteen years.

Consider that in '71 as a youth I was taken to watch the first Ali / Frazier fight on closed circuit. I've been to dozens of fights at the Olympic Auditorium and the Forum (California) in the early to mid '70s and live in Vegas today (which you'll discover has had a few fights over the years).

I am very familiar with boxing from the '60s and '70s, as I lived through it. I have been ringside to watch the Quarry bros. a few times. You can be certain that I hold Ali in the absolute highest regard a a fighter.

Clue up.

 

Please accept my apologies. I thought that you wrote that nonsense.

 

"Ali was not that smart, he had no university degrees. "

:rofl

 

ali by ud or cuts stoppage

 

hahaha yeah this is what i already aspected from you woddy. you are getting a little predictable.
ever thought of giving up you're current ocupation and becoming a stand-up comedian ???

 

ali has a better resume and legacy, and for that stands above vitali in ATG rankings; but vitali stops him head 2 head

 

no, no he doesn't. vitali is too slow and too predictable to face ali. he just wouldn't have an answer for ali's toughness, speed and overall athleticism.

 

vitali is anything but predictable. i just think height, reach, range and power beats boxing skill and athleticism in this one

 

the only thing vitali brings in this matchup his height and size, ali has a longer reach than him (ali: 84", vitali 82"). i honestly think vitali wouldn't be able to land a glove on ali, ali would see just about every punch he throws at him. vitali has and never will face an opponent like ali, his punches would be too fast and too crisp for vitali to capitlze on. vitali's power is overrated as well, he wouldn't hurt ali even if he COULD hit him.