Vitali Klitschko vs Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Shake, Jul 11, 2012.


  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    We obviously scored the Byrd fight differently. I think we have been through that before. I tend to agree with the cards in that one.

    Off the top of my head, Hide and Sanders both came at Vitali, though not in the style of Marciano, a style which has all but disappeared with the emergence of the Super Heavy.
     
  2. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    interesting that you bring this,
    but in case of lewis-liston you say lewis is much bigger,
    not mentioning the same situation here
    give liston lewis's roids and he'll be big as lewis,cause liston has one of the biggest frames of boxing hw champs,biggest hands,huge wrists,shoulders,back and chest..all this like lewis,without lewis's roids :)
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    **** u mentioning my name for?

    IMO Marciano beats Vitali.

    Vitalis size would work against him here. Marciano had a very good defense, he fought from a crouch which would work well for him here. Ducking under the slower Vitalis punches and working the body.

    Hed fight a similar fight to Chisora but better with more pressure and endless stamina

    How would Vitali slap Marciano into submission?
    Vitalis best opposition was = Lewis, Byrd and Chisora

    Vitali always has an injury excuse when things get going.

    Id question Vitalis heart in a fight against a guy like Marciano, who comes to bring it.

    Marciano isnt glass jawed Tomas Adamek.

    Instead of fantasising about beating Marciano, maybe Vitali should grown some balls and face David Haye
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep
    I was even correct at guessing your prediction :yep and only u reading my post prevented u from posting something yet more similar 2 it :yep .
    U surprised me by being this much unsurprising .
    Sometimes i surprise myself . It's like trying 2 kill a mosquito in d air , thinking that u missed it only 2 discover later that it's on d floor , dead .
    Even Chisora is slightly taller and somewhat naturally heavier than Marchegiano .
    I also doubt he'd have gone down against old and not 2 lean Archie Wright and old Arnold Cream .
    Rocco wasn't such a killing machine , he twice failed 2 stop Ted Lowry within 10 rds . Ted Lowry was good , but probably not old enough 4 Rocco 2 stop him . Rocco's wins over Charles , Wright , Louis and Cream , his 6 biggest wins in terms of popularity / publicity and prestige at least mean nothing and even less regarding its relevance 2 how he'd done against a prime or even 2009 Vitali Klitschko .
    I've seen d2 Paul Briggs fights , admittedly only 1ce each .
    Adamek did go down at least 1ce in at least 1 of them and did not impress in them . i've seen d vast majority (if not all) of his fight vs Vitali .
    I never got d impression on him as a glass jawed fighter so Y do u state it ? true that Glassamek sounds and reads really good , but any other reason ? did Vitali had medical proof 4 his shoulder being injured in any Byrd/Chisora fights ?

    Vitali fought Chisora when his little sister chickened out of fighting him .
    Haye being better money is Xcusable , Chisora spitting water in Wlad's face (supposing it wasn't staged) is actually a good reason 2 not give Chisora another big payday and his press conference incident with Haye doesn't help either , so Maybe Wlad rightfully disagrees a fight with him , but someday , when some1 who won't know d above might believe and rightfully so that Wlad avoided Chisora . Maybe he really ducks him , IDK even now .
    But when Vitali was willing 2 fight Haye , it was Haye who didn't want it . He was and is 9 years younger than Vitali , at his prime or at least very close 2 it , and did not want 2 fight Vitali . He waited 4 Vitali 2 grow even older . Even if Vitali does dcuk Haye now , it is Haye whom ultimately / historically ducked Vitali if some1 ducked any1 .
    Your picks @ fights r bad . Y don't u try your hand @ vBetting ? 2 dangerous ? 2b numerically and publicly proven wrong ?
     
  5. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Marcianos face eating Vitalis punches whilst trying to come in would be turned into minced meat so quickly it would be scary, if Charles could rip Marcianos nose virtually in half, Vitali would do much worse.

    I am a big Marciano fan but am a realiist also, and cannot see Marciano beating Vitali, a competent intelligent boxer, who is 6 inches taller weighs over 50 pounds more, and always turned up for his bout in good shape (as did Marciano of course).
     
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  6. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some times people I think forget just how big Vitali is!? The guy is like a freakin sky scrapper - watched the Adamek fight - and yes Adamek did look good periodically in the fight and when he let go with his clusters he made Vitali look like a giant mechanical robot with no sense - Vitali I think made Adamek look better than he was at times just because of the differential in speed and fluidity - but Vitali can just walk anyone down! And Vitali wasnt standing tall in that one he was trying to come down lower to Adameks head level - and he was quick enough for such a giant to still not really be at a speed deffecit really saying that even tho size wise it looked like a grown man following a small boy around he never made the power count in an immediate fashion - he just arm punches and they never seem to have any real leverage or torque on them ever otherwise Adamek would've been knocked into orbit - so I just don't see his shots bothering Marciano in an instant enough fashion to get him outa there at any point - and even tho most have been walked down and grinded down over the long hall by the giant mans arm punches I still see Rocky being the one to come to him still. Yes the size difference would be stupid but it still in my head that Vit has still not beat anyone close to Rockys pedigree or legendary status whereas Rock did beat people who were vastly more talented fighters than Klit but that size??? Obviously I'm leaning to Rocky just being far to good a real fighter and Vitali being far too big?? Guess who I'm going with?? I'll give you two guesses ;-)
     
  7. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Vitali does armpunch but i think that is part of his strategy as it is all he has had to do to win.

    If Marciano was felt to be a threat then those arm punches would become full weight blows.
     
  8. Seamus

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    Jesus Christ, people. Vitali was 40 years old against Chisora and Adamek. If the thread is how does a 40 year old Vitali do against Marciano, then fine. But if it is legit head to head, prime for prime, that is different.

    He was not always a crippled, wooden arm puncher. He did stop nearly every opponent for the bulk of his career. Bad back, bad shoulder, bad knee... and O L D now.

    Still, I'll take a 40 year old Vitali to win, probably by stoppage.
     
  9. he grant

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    This statement is so absurd it's hard to know where to start ... Comparing the size and skills of Marciano and Lennox, the fact that a forty plus year old Vitali cleanly defeated a much younger, bigger and stronger fighter than Marciano ever fought in Chisora, the fact that Arreola was destroyed by Vitali or the intentional misuse of the Byrd fight ... just a Classic classic.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its always hard to match fighters from different era,s but the fact is Marciano was a Great fighter. I like the Klitschko's but people on here are talking like it would be a mismatch but in reality its a tough fight for Marciano and the Klitschko's....Marciano was relentless and a very hard puncher this may cause Vitali an injury do to the hectic pace and pace & pressure and with Vlad, Rocky's pure punching power and pressure could unhinge Vlad...granted both brothers are a problem for Marciano for obvious reasons but tough and dangerous battles for all 3 men

    Remember Chris Byrd was maybe an inch taller than Marciano and he started to back up an injured Vitali, who is to say Marciano could not cause an injury...size would be a difference but so would greatness
     
  11. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps everyone is tired of me saying this, ad nauseum :D, but comparing fighters from totally different eras is extremely difficult, if not impossible in many cases.
    The Klit boys would not have been 240 lb. beefcakes in the 40's-50's.
    They would have been 215-220 and and a tad gangly tho with their boxing skills and a bit less power (as compared to their modern power).
    A 1990-2000 Rock would have been a 195-200 lb. little monster cannon.
    IMO no one knows how these cross-generation matchups might have played out.
    To be fair, I play out these matchups as well in my mind but it's simply impossible to make any definitive call on how it would play out.
    My $0.02
     
  12. Mega Lamps

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    I'd have to agree with this. I pick Marciano to win but it would be a difficult fight for both.
     
  13. Ali_

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  14. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who doesn't?
     
  15. LittleRed

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