Vitali Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano.

Not sure if srs...

 

Interestingly enough I think I favour Rocky over Vitali.

Vitali is even worse on the inside than wlad is. He doesn't even have the art of clinching down. He also relies a bit more on timing holds his hands low and takes more risks which makes him a tad easier to time yourself.

Vitali has fought two men of the stature of rocky and that's hide and Byrd. Hide was giving him troubles until he got knocked out (but his chin was known to be weak) byrd successfully walked him down and bossed any inside battle. He actually clearly outlander vitali in that despite throwing maybe half the punches.

give rocky a bit more muscle and I see him working his way inside and choppin up his body. He will lose rounds but he'll win enough for it to be close going down the stretch. I think vitali will tire and ultimately get dropped in the late rounds securing a close points win for Rocky.

So despite me picking Wlad and Lewis over rocky I do think he could and would beat vitali but he'd have to bulk up to about 200.

 

The moment i pulled of of Wlad/Marciano, KOartist , who had been reading it for weeks, comes in to **** all over it.

Haye who had a few joke fights at HW would be a force in any era??? Hahahaha.

This clown also thinks Wlad would destroy a prime Tyson and thought Wlad v Wach and Haye was a technical masterclass in boxing.

 

Rock fighting against super heavies is as speculative as Calzaghe fighting against super heavies.

One thing that isn't getting touched on much here is the fact that Rocky's stamina is going to nosedive due to having 60 lb's extra weight hanging on his shoulders every time he plods inside.

Vitali TKO 7 due to him not having the power of his brother. More of a sustained beating.

 

Vitali has a better chance to hurt the Rock and withstand any big shots that might land on his chin, but Wlad is the faster man, with the better jab and the better footwork, and his cautious style means he's less likely to give Rocky the chances to hit him. Up close he clinches he up and leans on him. Vitali tends to fight in close, or push his opponents off.

I don't give Rock a decent chance against either man, but he's marginally less outgunned against Vitali.

 

If Rocky "bulks up" to 200lbs why does that automatically make him a better fighter? And what exactly is modern nutrition? Hamburgers?

 

How does the extra muscle mass affect his speed and stamina? How does it affect his footwork? Where is the extra muscle mass to be distributed and by what means?

 

You would have to assume that if that was Rocks best fighting weight then that is what he would have fought at. He fought at 185 lb because it best suited his attributes.

 

I know. Bulking up is one of the most most ridiculous myths people have about being able to compete in the heavyweight division. Adding muscle mass in the right places can improve elements of your game, but there are often trade off as well. A juiced up Marciano with the same insane work ethic might make a phenomenal fighter, but then he might also be a plodding little tank who gasses in under ten rounds. It's impossible to tell.

 

Yeah I don't really rate vitali that highly. the two best guys he faced he lost to and he doesn't have any wins of real quality (although he does have the best comeback in hw history).

However thinking young can out smart vitali is not linked to thinking rocky will get inside and push his **** in.

I thought vitali looked shite against Byrd and I'm not sure why some people credit his performance there. I thought he was well on the way to losing a decision when he quit.

 

That's precisely why he's worse on the inside than wlad. He doesn't appreciate his limitations in the pocket like wlad does. How is he ever gonna win an exchange inside against rocky? He's slower, has much longer hands, doesn't hit as hard and won't be generating any leverage.


My comparison wasn't style based it was just purely on size with them being cruiserweight fighters.

I don't need to post it, it's on YouTube. I had it 5-4 to vitali. I think it was rounds 5,6,7,9 I gave to Byrd and he dicked vitali. Vitali landed very few punches and Byrd couldn't miss him. He completely walked him down during the middle rounds vitali looked shite. He injured his shoulder because he was throwing **** loads of punches and missing every time.

Vitali is too slow to keep rocky outside. He doesn't have enough power to keep rocky outside. Sure some rounds he will time him with right and keep the jab in his face but most of them will see rocky inside ****ing up his body.

Rocky takes it on points for me.

 

Marciano closes the gap after a good start by Vitali, the rock pressures Vitali with volume taking over the last 4 rds for a UD or a RSC or injury....Marciano was not just a little man, he was a freaky punching crouching rhythm breaker ...Marciano not as easy to hit than thought and Vitali has to reach in to land the jab and getting caught with weird angled shots...Vitali stronger than thought but hard to fight tall against Marciano and be offensively effective ...12 rounds would an astonishing pace...15 would be hard for Vitali's huge but fit frame over the last 5 rounds...great action fight

 

Which is different in what significant way to the 1950s?

 

You know there are two of these guys right? Because I think you're in the wrong thread...