Vitali Klitschko vs Sonny Liston

When were they first available?

I thought 70s but I could be wrong.

 

No, they have been around since the mid-50's. The Soviet Union has produced quite a number of steroids built athletes.

 

OK.

So theoreticaly Floyd Patterson could have used steroid.

 

You are a ****ing idiot. You dont even deserve to be spoken politely to, you're just a plain ******.

Tell us the one about how Chris byrd and Liston are the same size again genius?

 

Who's moderating this forum?

Can whoever it is please have a word with this character calling himself ChrisPontius? He has implied/stated here that the likelihood of Vitali Klitschko and Sonny Liston being steroid users is about the same, and that there is apparently a good chance Liston was in fact a pioneer of steroid use, on par with the Soviet Union.

The point is, this guy is consciously trolling, please deal with him :good

 

Be polite please.

 

Are you a moderator?

 

If I was I wouldnt necisarily tell you about it.

 

So no.

Again, who is modding around here? Trolling can be subtle, and these clowns who are claiming the chances of Vitali Klitschko and Sonny Liston being steroid users are about equal are unquestionably trolling.

 

This forums diversity is its saving grace.

Take away the people with unorthodox opinions and there is no point in you being here.

If you want agreement you can always agree with yourself.

 

Correct.

I never said the likelyhood was the same.

What i said was that Vitali was never caught on steroids in his pro career and neither was Liston, who was not even controlled.

Some people suggested Klitschko used them because he was big and steroids were around. OK, but Liston was big as well (for his time) and steroids were around back then too. Harder to get by, but mob connections could certainly work wonders.

In other words, either you consider both of the them "suspicious" or neither of them. Can't have it one way or another.

At your service:

Byrd: 6'0 1/2 , 213lbs
Liston: 6'0 1/2, 212lbs

 

'Unorthodox' is certainly a polite wat to dscribe the notion that there is an equal chance Klitschko and Liston were steroid users. more accurate one would be 'stupid'. However, I don't think (hope?) thats the case here; its just trolling.

 

So you are saying it and you aren't?

Vitali Klitschko was banned from the Ukrainian Olympic team for STEROID USE, which he himself freely admits.

Sonny Liston fought in an era when seteroids were not even widely in use, and were seemingly the preserve of the Soviet weightlifting team. Nobody, at an time, ever, has claimed or even implied Liston used steroids.

This is so obvious, its difficult to believe people need it explained to them (although this same person believes Liston and Chris Byrd where the same size, so...)

Mods please let me know if you consider ChrisPontius' claims that Klitscko and Liston are equally likely to have been steroid users to be trolling. Thanks.

 

Chris Byrd and Sonny Liston were roughly the same weight and height.

Liston, however, is more of a "natural" heavyweight than Byrd, and also was rangier.

I would imagine that Byrd is also smaller in the fist, wrist, forearm, bicep, thigh, calves, etc...areas as well.

 

That really hurt me. Please don't report my trolling to the mods! :|