Vitali Klitschko

Frazier for me is too good at getting inside and VKs footwork is too poor to keep away from him. I see Joe working that long torso and breaking VK down.

Liston has a good reach advantage and a lethal jab, not to mention his right hand and left hook. This is one fight that VK wont win by fighting on the outside in my opinion.

Lyle, Terrel mmm maybe he does maybe he doesnt but i think they are still better than anyone he has beaten

 

I also think he had better potential than Wlad. He moves better fights very tall and is a little awkward for a big man. That being said him and his brother werent programmed to be fighters, their just boxers, so they will always have problems with guys who take it to them, and that includes less skilled fighters who can make it an ugly fight. Vitali is getting old, and its hard to say how he would of performed against the marginally better fighters of the 90's, but judging by some of their previous fights, I think both brothers would always have problems with guys who can get inside and make it less of a boxing match.

 

Wladimir Klitschko is the much better fighter. Wlad is the much better offensive fighter, better jab, better straight right, much better left hook, better combination puncher, better body puncherfaster handspeed, more variety of punches in his reproitre...Wladimir also is the better technical fighter, has much better defense(doesnt leave his left hand by his waist and try to lean back away from punches horrible flaw), and most importantly Wladimir is much tougher and has proven far more heart than Vitali has ever shown in the ring....Wladimir has also proven his ability vs live hungry young opponents while Vitali has fought alot of either old/out of shape/overweight contenders.

 

Vitali over Liston? Not a chance in hell. I would also pick frazier to break him down so badly, that VK would quit on his stool by round 8, vitali does not respond well to pain proven his history.

Also does Joe Frazier and Sonny Liston get the chance to take Steroids before they get in the ring with VK? afterall VK tested positive for steroids in 1996 and it cost him a spot on the Olympic team. Once a cheater, Always a cheater.

 

Are you sure thats Old Fogster in there? Is that you Mendoza did you steal my Old Fogsters password?

 

Well, I certainly don't see Norton, Spinks, or Berbick beating Vitali Klitschko. Frazier is a 50/50 ( feeling generous tonight ), and Holmes is probably the only one who I'd make a definite favorite..

Of course had Ali been prime for those fights he would have done better than 56-5 too.

 

YES! You are correct to a degree...... Wlad has more ability and fluid movement........ In skills, I agree... BUT! Vitali Klit is bigger, stronger, scarier, and more devastating in the ring......... Vitali Klit puts his opponents in a frenzy upon entering the ring............ Vitali Klit has his time clock running; no **** there, but he is a monster..... Vitali Klit scares me to death, and I'll never ever fight him...... Hehehe....:good:huh:bbb
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there is not one fighter in the World today that would beat Vitali Klitschko.

And some people no matter who he beats and how bad he beats them will never give him any credit.

 

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he was given a pill by the doctor to help an injury and the doctor didnt tell him it was steriods

that is just an incorrect statement

 

I don't think Wlad himself would say he is tougher than Vitali. There is a lot that goes into being a better fighter. If you watch closely, Vitali moves around better, is harder to tag with a clean punch because he has good punch anticipation, fights back better under fire, has a great chin and take a better punch, and can in-fight and go to the body better, and has better stamina.

In addition Vital has better intimidation ability, and throws even more punches. To Wlad is a much better fighter is way off. You can say Wlad better, but much better? One day maybe you will get past bias and give VK some credit. The fact that Vitali pretty much lost 4 of his prime years, and has come back at age 37 to dominate is impressive.

 

One, no world class athlete merely takes oral steroids. That's an absolute **** poor cycle. You stack a oil based injectable with an oral, as I said, you'll not even get 50% of the results otherwise. No sane steroid user does anything different.

Mosley, Jones and every other fighter under the sun have a conveniant excuse. But it's not reality, they're simply justifications with pretty pink bows to sate the fans.

Nor do you take steroids for one ****ing day. Even straight up test injections take weeks and weeks to really get working. You do not take a single magical "steroid" pill and everythings healed and perfect again.

Get. ****ing. Real. Also, become informed on how something works before commenting on it and saying the other guy is simply not correct.

 

Wlad is physically more gifted, but Vitali has more intangibles of a fighter, and that carries you a lot further than all those things you listed above, and thats why youve seen Wladmir so inconsistent over his career.

 

Klitshcko was given something to help heal an injury he was carrying i think it was a shoulder or knee injury.

Im not saying Vitali took one pill he was given a course of treatment of them. And as you state out if it was oral steroids no sane steroid user just uses them that backs my case up as Vitali had no idea they was steroids so he probably jsut took what the docor gave him unknown.