Vitali Klitschko's pre pro weight

Then what are you doing here my son? Vitali got kicked of the olympics because of an leg injury treatment. He nearly ruined his legs and back with his kickboxing career. Besides the Klitschkos are probably the most tested HW. They always agreed to random testing and where never tested positive.

 

At age 20-21 in 1991/1992 he was fighting at 200/205 lbs in Kickboxing. In 1994 at age 23 he was fighting at SHW in Kickboxing and 1995 he won the World Military Championship at SHW in Boxing.

 

vitali resulted positive because of a treatment for a knee injury, nothing more; but apart that, do you guys REALLY think that the hevyweight division isn't ENTIRELY drugged from at least 1960? Have you ever seen tyson, evan field(lol) Lennox, bowe, and all the others?

 

Link to the specific procedures that were in place, or shut the **** up, little *****.

 

You don't really know how steroids work, do you?

 

Its normal to gain weight when you grow older. You don't need steroids for that. Most people weight more from when they were kids.:-(

 

I told you MORONS many times, everyone uses steroids at high level of competition. EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER IN TOP 10. ALL OF THEM.


Don't believe me you lazy couch shits that never stepped a foot in the ring? Look at Lance Armstrong. The guy passed hundreds of tests and yet there is little doubt now that he was using PEDS. It's part of the sport. And those aren't your over the counter anabolic muscle gainers that wrestling show stars use, I am talking about blood transfusions, testosterone boosters, hgh boosters, rapid recovery treatments, etc etc.

Winners are not determined by natural talent alone, but also by the sponsors behind them. Americans are ahead of the game because they have the best steroids available and the best masking technology that complicates detection. China is catching up, and Soviets had some of the best scientists in the field. China has a 16 year old girl that swims as fast as an adult male swimming star. WAKE UP, steroids have been around since cold war era, and the age of super humans is already here.

PS: Did anyone notice that after Floyd got on Manny's case about random testing, Manny has consistently shown signs of decline? He lost to Bradley (controversially, but never the less), he didn't finish Mosley, He lost to Marquez, and NOW he is ready to take whatever tests necessary. He denied those same tests when he seemed untouchable in the ring, didn't he? Just some food for thought

 

No, he didn't. The fight is universally regarded as a rob job, and will go down as one of the most notorious robberies of all time.

Mosley was never finished by anyone, nor did anyone ever come close to doing so. One of the most unknockoutable fighters of his era.

Bull****. Almost any honestly objective observer would acknowledge it was a close fight.

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Ali had testosterone injections.

 

Do you doubt that Manny 3 years ago would have outworked and obliterated Bradley? Desert storm would be buried under the flurries of relentless Pacman. And Mosley was there for the taking. Pac had him on the run but didn't finish him off because he claimed in the post-fight interview that he had "Leg cramps".

Oh and for Marquez fight, I didn't say it wasn't close. I said he lost. Given the age disparity and the fact that Marquez was coming up in weight, he still lost. Why you wonder? Not in a small part due to Marquez himself getting some contacts with the people at former Balco Marquez never looked better, he put on solid muscle weight that he seemed completely comfortable at...Do you believe it was urine that helped him do that?

 

You can say he lost to Marquez, but you can't state it like it was an objective fact. It was a close fight that could have gone either way. Period. The fact that he didn't stop Mosley simply speaks to Mosley's chin and defensive ability. The dude has NEVER been close to being stopped. Even at his absolute worst, Shane was as solid as they come. Canelo beat seven shades of **** out of a shot to hell Mosley, and Shane was never close to getting knocked out. And again, the Bradley loss was a heinous robbery.

 

The Manny of 3 years ago was 3 years younger too.

A 30 year old that relies on speed, stamina, and "relentless flurries" is going to be better than the same fighter at 33 relying on exactly the same things.

I think in another 3 years time, he'll have declined even further.