Vitali Klitschok and Deontay Wilder's resumes (COMPARED!)

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wonder if this thread came about from a post I did recently where I wrote below
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    It's often down to circumstances
    I don't think it is weak at all but understand why some do. People often forget where the opponent was in their career when respective fights happen and judge at the end of a career which can also be inaccurate

    Vitali was I think 14-2-0 (12KOs) in world title fights

    I recall when he was facing Hide that he wasn't picked to win in a boxing magazine and Hide was a very destructive puncher.
    It was a very impressive world class win at the time

    Peter at the time was a big punching HW champ

    Sanders had not longer previously beaten W Klitschko

    Gomez was 44-1-0 when Vitali fought him and had as well as being a CW champ, had some decent HW wins

    Arreola was 27-0-0 and had been on a good run


    But I think as time goes on people just recall some of those opponents for losses they suffered after rather than at the time


    It's interesting because I see very conflicting posts and opinions with Wilder who is ATM in world title fights 10-2-1 (10KOs)

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/vitalis-top-5-wins.688145/#post-21768614

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    I'm not sure that the thread starter was watching much of Vitali from the start of his career

    He hasn't mentioned Hide which was a very impressive win and performance
    I recall reading in a boxing magazine at the time how they picked Hide, who was a massive puncher.

    I think Hide was a bigger win than any that Deontay has, which is not meant in a bad way at all, just think it is forgotten how good Hide was at that time
     
  2. ShortRound

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    Fresh, determined Chisora is arguably the best win on Vitali's record: better than a washed up Peter, ultra-glass chinned cruiser Hide, flabby old inactive golfer Sanders, mediocre cruiser champ Gomez.

    Ortiz 1 would be the best opponent beaten on Vitali's record and Ortiz 2 would be right up there. Stiverne 1 (Wilder's third/fourth best opponent beaten) dominated one of Vitali's best wins in Arreola twice, first by schooling and second by KO. Duhaupas beat Charr and KO'd Helenius in Finland, whereas Chisora lost that decision because he couldn't grind him down. Vitali has a bit more depth lower down but at the top end Wilder has the better wins.

    Vitali had the better pointfighting skills but counting rounds with Wilder betrays a lack of understanding of his strategy because in nearly all of his fights he was solely looking to KO his opponent while minimising risk and damage incurred, not engage in a pointfighting match.

    It's also ironic you talk about Wilder struggling with Vitali's opponents because he wouldn't have quit against Byrd and would have likely cracked a complacent Lewis's chin.
     
  3. ShortRound

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    Briggs was KO'd in 3 by journeyman Darroll Wilson, got a controversial decision over a late 40's Foreman in his final fight (who himself had been having close fights or getting gifts against fringe contenders in years prior) got KO'd in 5 by Lewis, got a controversial draw with Botha, lost to journeyman Sedreck Fields, got schooled and dropped by unexceptional Klitschko era contender McCline, got schooled by Sultan and finally after a long career of punishment got battered over 12 by Vitali.

    His best win was clearly his come from behind 12th round stoppage victory over Liakhovich.

    He wouldn't have got past Stiverne and may well have slipped up before that.