Vitali should think about retirement

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Feb 18, 2012.


  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I saw a fighter who wouldn't even get a European title shot in a good era, press Vitali and have success from the first to last round. Chisora doesn't have great conditioning, he's inexperienced and still showed he could outfight Vitali.

    I, like everyone else, thought it would be mire one sided than it was. Instead, Vitali looked poor and got hit a lot by a guy who is likely the fourth best British heavyweight in the world.

    Chisora may turn into a decent fighter in the future. However, he has no experience and it showed.

    Gloat about that, if you want. Chisora just proved that Vitali isn't elite and never has been.
     
  2. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    granted Vitali has never been an ATG but he is the best there is now, and thats what counts.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    WRONG! Arreola was even more active and faster but could not match Vitali's footspeed, or get past his jab. Last night, Vitali who might have hurt his hand/arm, seemed much slower. He threw less punches, and moved less. Perhaps age caught up? Perhaps the injury had something to do with it? It could have been a bit of both. Vitali looked awesome vs. Adamek. Last night we did not see the same guy.

    Point being Chisora exposed nothing. It was age or injuy. And it was Vitali's worst performance.

    Not sure if Vitali should retire or not. He won easy, and can stay on top for a while if he wants to.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    Well, Chisora was not in shape at all for the Fury match. He was for Helenius, and was the better. Point being the Chisora we saw last night is far better than the man Fury beat.

    I would like to see Chisora vs. Haye. I doubt Haye would take the fight.
     
  5. Manning

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    You're aware this is the strongest ever field for the European title aren't you?
     
  6. Reiko

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    I personally think that Vitali is overrated, but to down play his whole career because of a lacklustre performance while in his forties is really stretching.
     
  7. Jack

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    Arreola has no head movement at all. That's the difference between him and Chisora. Arreola plods forward and when Chisora plodded forward, he got hit as often as Arreola did. When Chisora showed movement, Vitali didn't handle that well.

    We didn't see the same fighter because he was against someone who made it tricky. Despite being a hugely inexperienced amateur with only 17 pro fights, Chisora put in a good showing against Vitali. If he had more experience and better conditioning, I think we'd have a new world champion and that isn't because Chisora is exceptional or because Vitali is shot, it's purely because Vitali has never been a great himself.

    Age and injury are just excuses. In his last fight, Vitali looked great and he himself doesn't think he's slowed down in training. As for the injury, it was likely nothing as he continued to throw throughout the fight.

    Vitali just isn't, nor ever has been, a great fighter. He's 'good' but if he was 'great', he wouldn't be looking so poor against the 4th best fighter in Britain, who is still 10lbs too heavy and with only 35 fights in his entire pro and amateur career. He'd only gone 12 rounds twice before, he has no punch, he's not fast, his stamina isn't great....and yet he still made Vitali look poor. Yes, Vitali may be 40 but he's coming off a performance in which he looked physically very good.
     
  8. Jack

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    I don't know, mate. Vitali looked better than he has in a long, long time against Adamek, who is the most highly decorated fighter Vitali has ever beaten. Are we meant to assume that in the months from the Adamek fight to night night, Vitali has slipped so badly? I can't see that.

    Fighters only lose it so quickly after a tough fights, such as Taylor/Chavez or Frazier/Ali. They don't become old overnight after an easy win.
     
  9. Bummy Davis

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    this I agree with
     
  10. LONGROB

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    Vitali is just fine. It's easy to look great against fighters that cooperate.

    Briggs- Gave Vitali space, and was standing in concrete, too heavy, no stamina.
    Adamek- Way too small, gave Vitali space to do his thing.
    Sosnowski- Smallish, gave Vitali space.... just overmatched in every way.


    When I saw Chisora come out smoking I knew that he was going to be a problem. Vitali likes to pick and poke with his jab, but Derek's head was moving quite well. Vitali probably hurt his left arm, but it was due to trying to get Chisora under control with his left hook. I agree with others, if Chisora was lighter, threw more jabs to Vitali's chest, and had a few more fights under his belt then we would have a new champ. If Sam Peter could move his head like Chisora, Vitali's come back would have been only one fight.
     
  11. NeckBreaknAiken

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    So you're saying he should duck Haye?