Vitali talking about Haye

Haye never lost to a SMW either and saying over and over that he did doesn't make it so. So I don't know what relevance that point has.

 

Is it only people in England that think Haye is a great fighter because he has done nothing to prove it he is loud mouth mediocre fighter who will run at the first sign of trouble and the klits are big trouble.

 

You're a ****ing idiot. The reason I put 'natural athletic weight' in inverted commas and followed it by a :rofl is cos I was mocking your stupid argument sarcastically. I guess it's my fault as you'd already proven yourself far too dumb to get that.

Again, Haye has never lost to a SMW. He has only lost once, to Carl Thompson who was a very solid career CW with 13 years experience at the weight.

You have no answers at all to my posts. Just shut the **** up, accept you've been owned and **** off immediately.

 

I think you are wrong, actually I know you are. Haye was giving tickets away after the Maccarinelli fight and the Valuev fight was after he used the Klitschkos name to raise his profile. Please don't try to tell me that the average British fan does not know who the Klitschkos are, Haye didn't shut the **** up for 2 years about how he was going to knock them both out.

 

It works both ways. Wlad is a megastar in Germany, but he sold 65k tickets to the Chagaev fight with Haye's name on the tickets. That was a massive career high gate and his attendance has dropped hugely since then and continues to fall.

Haye is HW champ now and great at talking up his fights so from this point out he'll easily sell out 20k venues and sell a few hundred thousand PPVs without the Klits. That's more than enough to eclipse Wlad and his tiny German TV deals. Sad but true.

All boxing fans know the Klitschkos but **** all of them will PAY for anything Wlad does. He needs Haye to get a PPV deal going. Without Haye he has no way to get on PPV in the UK, US or anywhere else that matters.

 

He gave away tickets to the Barrett fight which was a fight in a big arena with nothing on the line against a guy who no casual fans had heard of during a recession with Christmas just round the corner. If you know anything about casual British fans you'll know that if there's no title at stake they're not likely to be interested.

He called out Wlad after the Maccarinelli fight, so you reckon that raised his profile but he still had to give away tickets to two of his three fights since and two years after calling him out it raised his profile? Sorry bud but that doesn't make sense. I'm not aware of him giving tickets away for the Ruiz fight anyway and iirc it was also a ppv.

As far as British fans not knowing the Klits, the boxing fans do obviously but the casual fans who only watch 'big fights' still think of Vitali as someone Lewis fought and don't know much about Wlad. I'm British and know fine well that more people here have heard of Haye than Wlad, and it isn't because they decided to watch an interview where Haye spoke about someone they don't know/wouldn't pay to see/whatever. I'm not saying Haye should have more name recognition here than Wlad, just that he does.

 

Wlad cleaned up the division top to bottom. Haye is scraping the bottom. He knows his days as a paper champ are numbered so he is already planning acting career which should come naturally for a clown like him.

 

You still ignoring that in germany they don't have a ppv channel? Are you that stupid? It's funny you thinking you owning everybody where most people here are actually owning you. You're a ******ed fool that thinks Haye resumes is better then fighters like Chagaev who beat Valuev and Ruiz far better then Haye did. Haye gets sell very good in the uk is cause well of his trash talks thinking he's the greatest. But what i find it more funny is you and most people are defending Haye to even have a uk ppv fights vs fighters he should easily win. <<<You don't think that's greedy on his part? If there was ppv in germany i bet both Klits would get maybe the same amount of money then Haye recieve on skysports ppv.

 

Hey moron if i recall isn't Wlad vs Chisora on uk ppv? lol. And if i recall Wlad vs Chambers, Chagaev has been on espn channel. <<<Haye has never been on any network unless if it's the uk in the heavyweight division.

 

I haven't seen it advertised and it's not available to buy yet. So No it isn't, it might be come the time but as yet it isn't.

His fight with Maccarinelli was moved to suit US TV networks, I'm not sure which one showed it but it was on at 3am local time because one of them did.

 

The reality of the situation is, Haye is a draw in the UK only, Wlad is better known, more well respected and watched by more people around the world. I've asked twice now in this thread, how much money was Haye making per fight before he shamlessly called out a guy he never had any intention of fighting? Where was his ppv deal?

If Haye fights Wlad he will get a lot more ppv buys than he did against someone like Ruiz, this means Wlad's name, belts and standing adds value to the ppv, so Wlad should get his cut. David Haye is pricing himself out of the fight, if anyone truly believes that Wlad should bend to Haye's ridiculous demands where he would get less than the challenger I just don't know what to say. It's ****ing ridiculous that anyone would try to defend Haye on this.

 

The simple truth?

It is only Brits. 98% of all the people who defend Haye, who believe his bull****, who suck down his hype like it was their daddy's ****... they are all Brits.

Fortunately it is only a small minority of Brits, and a shrinking one at that. However, they have permanently left the impression on this board that every Brit is a ****ing ******.

You'd have to understand a bit about the Brit culture. It is wide, and varied. There is a subculture of their sporting fans. Although it is only part of the sporting fanbase within Britain, it is still a large number of people.

They are the worst sports fans on the planet. Not just devoted, but slaves. Not only irrational, but violently irrational. Scum.

When I see Haye fans, I see the same mentality.

 

Exactly, I'm all for supporting my fellow countryman in sport and we can all be biased at times but what's the point in trying to defend the indefensible? I know there are just a few people left defending Haye but they really are some of the most ignorant and deluded fans on this whole forum. It's like a full time job for them trying to deflect the blame from Haye and trying to paint the Klitschkos as the bad guys.

 

Say it however you like. Wlad Klit would not have lost to a lightheavy. Wlad Klit would not have lost to a crusier. you are still a nutlicker who is delusional about David Haye's capabilites, probably because of some kind of latent homosexuality..