Vitali to Sugar Nico Valuev: The Worst Kind of Slavery is Slavery to Fear

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  1. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    Love the black and white, no nonsense Wlad video of calling out Haye.

    Vitlai should have gotten the same *producer* to call out *Sugar Nicolai*.

    (sheer genious, whomever came up with the name, *Sugar Nicolai*) :lol:
     
  2. philby

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  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here is Valuev's *calling Vitali out* video, too.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRZD0AbSIP8[/ame]
     
  4. blastmaster122

    blastmaster122 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sugar?

    Well ****, let's just "Sugarize" everyone's names right now:

    Sugar Manny Pacquiao
    Sugar Floyd Mayweather
    Sugar Amir Khan
    Sugar Timothy Bradley
    Sugar Andre Ward
    Sugar Wladimir Klitschko
    Sugar Roy Jones Jr.
    Sugar Bernard Hopkins
    Sugar Roberto Duran
    Sugar Antonio Margarito
    Sugar Oscar De La Hoya
    Sugar Marco Antonio Barrera
    Sugar Juan Manuel Marquez
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Sugar Koki Kameda
    Sugar Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    Sugar Hozumi Hasegawa
    Sugar Mikkel Kessler
    Sugar Arthur Abraham
    Sugar Mike Tyson
    Sugar Chris John
    Sugar Nonito Donaire
    Sugar Bernabe Concepcion
    Sugar Juan Manuel Lopez
    Sugar Miguel Cotto
     
  5. Heavyrighthand

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    Meaning, the Valuev fight is still the fight Vitali wants, and is not signed and sealed with Briggs, yet.

    Valuev needs to realzie he is coming off a loss, and his financial demanding power is next to nothing, given that he is getting a titleshot OFF OF A LOSS, for cryin out loud. Take the fight, even if you are not making what you want, cause its clear Vitali will move on, without him, and fight Briggs.

    How unreasonable can *team Valuev* be, when given this kind of undeserved opportunity to fight for a title? Does Valuev not remember that he was beaten in his last fight?
     
  6. sunny

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  7. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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  8. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm hoping they settle it like men.

    Peacefully, over a couple of slush puppies.
     
  9. Hermit

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    :rofl

    Yeah, he accepted an old offer for another fight at a different time and place that was no longer being offered. This board just goes further and further down the drain every day.
     
  10. Hermit

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    If you don't even know this you really have no business posting what you did. Valuev has a certain value in dollars for Klitchko. No more, no less.
     
  11. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    There is no offer now, he blew it. But it was 1.5 million. Shannon Briggs reportedly has taken the fight and he's not complaining that Vitali is paying him little is he? BTW do your own homework next time before you start trying to talk like you know anything.

    And Vitali WAS willing to pay 2.5 mil, but that was for a summer fight in a soccer stadium and the euro was trading far better then. Take an economics course and figure it out. King wanted 4 million and who knows what else, so that offer was taken off the table. DK is the one that priced themselves out of the fight, not Klitschko. We're talking about a fight here, not sparring partners.....the Champion doesn't have to pay out big for a voluntary/non-unification fight. It's an opportunity and privilege for the challenger to get the shot. Valuev had the chance at a belt and a bigger payday than he ever made as champion.

    Did Valuev ever pay out big for a quality challenger? NO. He just paid to stage his rematch against the real WBA champion in Finland where he could safely get a paper belt and avoid another loss against the man that already beat him soundly before, then defend it in the WBA circle jerk ad infinitum.

    And you talk like Valuev is some elite HW :lol: Tell me, what's his legacy?
     
  12. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Wow! The stupidity in that reply is of epic proportions! You can't even quote a message reply properly. Good job.
     
  13. Hermit

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    I don't appreciate being misquoted you little turd. Off to the iList for you. I don't have time to waste on people that have to make up quotes to dispute. That is as pathetic as it gets. bye bye idiot. :hi:
     
  14. bruce_keyes

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    Well thats the problem, Valuev isn;t worth 2.5 million.. Don King turned it down even when the offer was on the table...

    haha two-time veteran champ???? WTF r u talking about.. arguably beat David Haye... lmao.... What about when a 60-year old Holyfield 'arguably' beat Valuev???
     
  15. sunny

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    you keep missing the point over and over again - i'll spell it out for you:

    We know Valuev is the challenger - stop saying that - yawn
    Normally this would mean he should take what is offered for a title shot - agreed
    HOWEVER the Klits are not popular HW despite their dominance
    This is because of the perception that they have a negative style
    and because of the quality of the oposition and because as brother they prevent unification
    The general public and TV companies/media have lost or are quickly losing interest in the division and in the sport as a result
    Like it or not Haye and Valuev hold the publics interest
    Haye because of his mouth and flashy style
    Valuev because of his freakish size
    At this point the Klits needs to take big fights in order to re-shape their legacy and change peoples minds
    Haye is already a HW belt holder - and unified cruiser weight champ
    Valuev is a 2 time HW belt holder
    They are the fights people want to see - now (not Broggs)
    This means under these circumstances the rules have change - the Klits don't hold all of the cards - that is the reality - they can't afford to price themselves out of fights much longer - they must be very rich men but their legacy will be bankrupt unless they accept less cash and make the big fights happen - why can't you see that?

    Negotiation isn't black and white their are no rules - so stop quoting the rules - its all about the moment

    Also anyone who thinks Valuev beat Haye doesn't understand how boxing is scored