Vitali V Tom Sharkey?

Briggs is / was a name and has some serious padding on his record, but he does have a chin and guts, plus, strong as an Ox....

Briggs took the worst heavyweight beating I've ever seen aside from Texas Cobb against Holmes in 1982......

MR.BILL

 

The point that I am making is, while V.K. might not be a wicked KTFO type of puncher, he sure as hell is heavy handed and gets his job done usually by TKO with his foe battered like eggs......
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I also swear up and down to almighty Amon-Ra, despite the number of fights or hall of fame opponents, V.K. is still one of the ATG heavyweight champs who could be successful in any era of heavyweight boxing between 1887 to 2011......
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I can only come up with about 6 names over the decades who could actually beat the guy...... 'Tis why he rates # 7 on my top-10 list of ex-champs...
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That's yor opinion Bill, and a fairly baseless and biased one IMO mate.

 

Vitali hit Briggs flush in the eye and cheek all night. Why you do think his left orbital bone was crushed? Punches to the chin? No. Vitali is slow and Briggs could see them and kept turning his head away from the punches, eating them in the side of the head. Its ****ing flush and damaging but not the type of punch that is going to shut your brain down.

A few punches caught Briggs' chin and temple, those were usually the ones that staggered him. We are pretty much saying the same thing..I'm just going into more detail and finding a "why." Vitali isn't dropping anybody, he lacks pinpoint accurate power, he's just clubbing them to death with head punches like that.

I'm commenting on a particular fight and limited my observations to just that, I don't care about Sanders and Lewis. I do recall Briggs barely being able to stand from fatigue when Lewis dropped him after punching himself out. It would have been better for Briggs if he went for broke like that against Vitali, instead of laying back, conserving his energy and eating right hands to the eye.

 

Damn right its my opinion.... I also stand by it, too.... V.K. is great in my book....
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Speaking of Corrie Sanders, he and V.K. fought a war of attrition in 2004 Los Angeles....

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Within the first 1-2 rounds.

 

Guys, I don't rag or knock old fart greats from a century ago, but I also know the sport / biz has evolved and things have changed.... The gear has gotten way better over the decades, yet by 1930 it was good enough for the game.... Some of the stuff Sullivan, Fitz, Gans, Nelson, Wilde, Tom Shark, Jeanette and even Pancho Villa used was primitive.... I just think many old fart greats of circa 1900 would have issues in a time machine with post 1930s ringers and post 1930s rules, etc......

MR.BILL

 

I know there a few pictures of Vitali finding his chin, but in reality this is how the majority ofhis punches landed against Briggs.

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No doubt solid points ... I think it's simply his style .. he is a cagey fighter who maximizes his size and reach and part of his effectiveness comes from an in and out style opposed to over extended power shots ... I think he throws a lot of hard shots, time and again and is very strong opposed to dynamite crushing shots ... let's put it this way, no one walks through his shots to get to him and it's because they all hurt ... stil I agree, he is not the hitter from pure power that his KO percentage reflects and not in the class of Lewis, Foreman, Wlad, Liston or Louis .. no way ..

Either way he was a foot taller than Tom Sharkey and likely stops him at some point ... if he could reach him ...

 

Those shots from V.K. cause lingering effects later in life.....:shock:

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I'm stating my observations regarding a particular fight. Against Briggs, I saw Vitali cave in the side of a man's head with continous punches to his cheek and eye.

Like other Vitali fights, this tells me his punches may not score many knockdowns or one hit KOs, but its going to mess fighters up, wear them down, and discourage them.

I'm not interested in measuring power or making a case either way. I feel its rather fruitless as its a combination of power, finishing ability, aggression, and accuracy that makes a fighter dangerous. In Vitali's case its his willingess to volume punch his opponent's head, not caring if he's finding the chin or not, just dishing out as much punishment as possible. Tough to fighter to swarm I fear unless you can pull a Lewis and get him out of there before he busts you up too bad.

 

Bullseye.