Vitali vs Chisora .. What exactly happened ?

I gave chisora two rounds. It was an easy win for vitali

 

Watching the tape, I do not think Vitali would have lasted 15 rounds with the great Joe Frazier

 

Vitali lacks fundamentals.

 

Let me understand you thinking. Your are watching a 40 year old with a shoulder injury easily defeating a a much younger guy, who at that point was a contender and drawing the conclusion based on this alone?

Judging how easily Frazier was stunned / buckles his knees when another guys lands who doesn't hit as hard as Vitali did, Frazier he would be lucky to go 10 before Vitali stops him.

The difference between the two is 2 full weight classes. Frazier being as short as he was with a 73" reach would really have to get in close to land. He did vs Ali, mostly because Ali legs weren't the same. His punches had zero effect on Foreman, and if he could land some on Vitali my bet is it would look about the same.

To complicate things, Vitali was seldom caught with the hook.

 

" An injury to Klitschko's left shoulder in the third round prevented him from using his jab and left hand as effectively as normal, but he was still able to keep the hard charging Chisora at bay for the majority of the fight. Despite the constant pressure applied by Chisora, Klitschko was able to use his height and reach advantage to land many powerful right hands to outland his opponent and stay in control. At times Chisora was able to unleash and land some punishment of his own, with most of his work coming to the body and his best round being the twelfth and final round.

All three of the judges scored the fight to Klitschko with scores of 118-110, 118-110 and 119-111. Despite the fight being fairly one sided, Chisora earned credit for his chin and heart, and also for giving Klitschko his most competitive fight since his defeat to [url]Lennox Lewis[/url] in 2003. Chisora also became only the fourth man (after [url]Tino Hoffmann[/url], [url]Kevin Johnson[/url] and [url]Shannon Briggs[/url]), to take Klitschko the full twelve round distance.

In the post match press conference, Chisora was involved in a controversial confrontation with fellow British boxer [url]David Haye[/url], which subsequently paved the way for the pair's own [url]grudge match[/url] later in the year. " -Wiki

 

He was injured and old, yet won easily vs a high energy type of opponent.

Vitali accurate punches what you could say is an unorthodox style, but it works for him. A lack of fundaments is not necessarily a weakness. Ali lacked fundaments too.

 

Vitali is not a puncher.He just lacks fundamentals, mostly throws arm punches.His brother had much better technique.

 

I can see your point. It gets you to certain level but not further,Evidence of that is the Lewis fight where Vitali’s face got shreddered.

 

Vitali never learnt to keep up his left.Lewis exploited that weakness

 

Frazier blocked punches with his face.

 

Blah, blah blah, maybe if I watch Frazier vs. Cummings, I can conclude based on that fight alone that Fraizer didn't have good stamina or a hard hook and would be beaten by say Duane Bobbick. Essentially this is what your saying and I did not mix in an injury for Frazier. No it's not fair to say, I'm showing you how you write it.

In actually I have read Frazier had real tough time with Scrap Iron Johnson

In retrospect, Fraizer was wise to initially retire when he did. He was also lucky for the draw with Cummings, a win and he get's whacked vs someone better.

Had Frazier fought ranked top ranked guys in 977, 1978, 1979, and 1980, say Norton, Holmes, Shavers, Lyle....those guys, he likely finishes his career at 32-7-1, and has at least 5 KO'd by on his resume.

 

Chisora gave him a decent fight that is what happened

 

Actually Frazier was very adapt at slipping punches.

 

He had a good punch anticipation, a quick step sense to move back, some head movement . He also used his towering height to lean back and avoid punches. Lewis himself said Vitali was hard to hit. Vitali knew how to fight big. To get to Vitali a fighter had to get past his active jab, which one one solved ( by out jabbing him ) and be prepared to catch his counter right if they missed. Sure he was hit, this is boxing. That did not matter much as he was never floored, and took a great punch. Only an injury and cuts defeated him, not lack of ability or the in-ability to take punches.

Despite a low left hand, a trait that many past greats also have, Vitali dominated the score cards, never losing more than three rounds on any pro card in a long career. Can you name any champion who can boast that in the history of the ring? If the answer is no, it wasn't much of a problem.