Vitali vs Chisora .. What exactly happened ?

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can see your point there.So I meant the Vitali of the Chisora would not have lasted 15 rounds against joe.Do you agree?
     
  2. THE BLADE 2

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    Is is about level of opposition He only fought one ATG in his career, past prime though.His lack of fundamentals got exposed there in my view.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Foreman tee'd off on Fraizer, Ali at times made his head look like a bobble head doll's. Quarry didn't have a problem landing in their first fight. Neither did Bonevena. Where is this defense vs his better opponents?

    Frazier made smaller guys his size miss most of whom had average power and a limited reach. Up close, yes he was good with a duck / counter hook.
     
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  4. THE BLADE 2

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    foreman had the uppercut.Alis had the speed.Vitali has neither
     
  5. Mendoza

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    He beat many top ten fighters and made it look easy, and he was beating Lewis, it was cuts loss based on the ring doctors call. Vitali did not make his name beating up past their prime greats such as Holyfield or Tyson. That was Lewis' gig.
     
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  6. NoNeck

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    So was Vitali. He just did in in a weird way because of how tall he was.
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    For a guy who based this on one fight when he was 40 years old, you missed some of his uppercuts. You don't reply to my facts, how can you? Foreman hit Frazier with many punches that he threw, and Frazier was quickly hurt by them. It wasn't just his uppercut.

    Let's keep it real, Fraizer is 1-4 vs all time greats ( three KO losses ) Lots of others could hit that mark, and at times struggled vs merely good contenders. Hit two title defenses were a joke, not ranked in the top 30, and he didn't look good in either. Stander actually bucked his knees with the only solid blow he landed. Frazier didn't fight many punchers either, and I say that was for a reason and steered clear of the WBA Tourney which had some puncher's in it.

    Frazier 's chin was an issue. By his own admission he was close to a TKO loss vs Bonevena in a fight I scored as clean draw on the 10 point must system. They say Norton had a glass jaw, okay but who did Ali hurt easier Frazier or Norton?
     
  8. janitor

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    Chisora has always been a bit of an enigma and a frustration.

    At his best he was absolutely better than a lot of men ranked in the top ten, but he could blow hot and cold.

    He had the ability, but lacked discipline and wisdom.

    If you could put the old Chisora's head on the young Chisora's shoulders, then he could rally have gone places.

    Evan as he is now, he took Dillian Whyte to the brink of disaster twice!

    Yes the current drop are lucky that a prime Vitally Klitschko is not around!
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

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    He got hit repeatidly by the the Lewis overhand right.Never learnt to keep up his hands.
     
  10. THE BLADE 2

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    The key of the Foreman - Frazier fight was the uppercut in my view. Vitali is a long range fighter
     
  11. NoNeck

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    Lewis was one of the best right hand punchers in history and had a long reach.
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

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    Yep and Vitali had no defense for it.Guys like Mercer and Holyfield could handle it though.
     
  13. BCS8

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    The great Joe Frazier barely managed a draw with this guy when he was 37:

    https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/2476

    Chisora would have mopped him up.
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    He caught them too. I remember Vitali catching a big uppercut. Not so much with right hands. The cut wasn’t off a big punch.
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

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    Look man, Vitali never learnt to keep that left up.You can’t get away with that against the likes of Lewis.