Vitali vs valuev! MAke that fight happen!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Aint no stoppin, Dec 13, 2009.


  1. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    at least Valuev would probably give it a go
     
  2. Armo_Ruski

    Armo_Ruski best of da best Full Member

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    i'd like to see helenius dethrone haye for the wba, then face vitali. helenius has that stone cold look to him and would not fear vitali IMO. im not saying he'd win, i can assure u he'd go for it tho.
     
  3. Buddy87

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    My take on Nikolai Valuev vs Vitali Klitchko.

    To my oppinion, Nikolai Valuev has all the advantages needed to beat Vitali Klitchko, the question is..would he ever use them?:

    The advantages that Valuev has over Vitali are:

    Valuev has the height advantage, and when using that european style of boxing height is your best friend and most powerful ally, both Valuev stands in a perfect triangle shaped format where Vitali may have have his head dipped a little slanted backwards to avoid straight punches coming in from smaller fighters punching up, the question is; how would Vitali fair against a fighter who's jabs are coming down.

    Valuev is healthier than Vitali, though it may not look like it from the fight against Holyfield and possibly the fight with David Haye, styles make fights and what I mean is anybody that jumps on there feet in a circular motion is going to make Valuev miss, european styles like Vitali has two cemented hooves on the ground and with those cemented feet you got power in those punches, the problem with Vitali's power however. From looking at his last performance with Kevin Johnson it's obvious also to note that Vitali doesn't care for the body and acts like it doesn't exist, is that Vitali lost that power in his most important arm for the finisher, the right arm!

    Vitali could not execute the finish to take out Johnson because of it, when his jab would come and his arm would droop down and drag on the canvas, and it was calling for it all night to turn Johnson's head into a baseball with Klitchko's arm being the bat! Vitali has showed concern on his face when facing up against Johnson even though he missed over 800 of his punches he still proved superior over Johnson.

    I wish Valuev knew the physical power that was gifted down upon him because he's capable of landing power more powerful than George Foreman like I have seen a powerful 1-2 ripped to Ruiz but was blocked, if he would have landed that than it would have been to the emergency center level 7 for Ruiz.

    They both show that they can go 12 rounds without a hitch, for both men at such large sizes it still never ceases to amaze me.

    The #1 thing that can win Vitali the day, volume:

    Again and again Vitali has proved that with a slow and steady approach with a solid foundation can win you the day against his opposition, Peters Arreola and Johnson. Over 80 punches a round is absolutely phenomenal for this weight division and any weight division to be throwing at a consistent rate, this might very well be the deciding factor if what to come to win him the day once again.

    However, if Valuev can keep his distance and snap those amazingly good zipper jabs of his to Vitali's head, it could discourage him from doing any more work, I can't see Vitali ripping Valuev's head off to knock him out the mean has a better melon than Vitali, if Haye landed something like that to Vitali those solid legs would turn into a clown bopper. Morales throw a punch like that against Guty Espadas and laid him out cold, I have no clue how Valuev was able to stand from that only to say that he has the best melon in the game.

    I think when Valuev loses it makes him more determined and stronger and appreciate what he once had and was now taken away from him compared to Vitali's inspiration, what inspiration? the man who has beaten him is now done and enjoying himself on HBO as well as Byrd who the hell knows what he's doing now, last I seen he was battering some guy in the Cruiserweight division.

    Vitali is like a King who sits bored on the throne waiting for his next meal to come, if Chagaev were to fight Valuev in the 2nd fight instead of Klitchko Valuev would have tortured him with bigger and better jabs, the volume rate would have been a different story leading to Chagaev to suffer longer because the Chagaev that beat Valuev the first time would have nailed Wladamir's jaw coming in and took him out, not a man who tore his tendon and got a blood disease.

    To state some facts, Valuev and his team have been trying hand and foot to try and get this fight to happen with Vitali with Vitali avoid this fight at all costs, wouldn't pick up his calls and when they finally caught him a wedding with a promoter, he went silent and did not say a thing, lol.

    I hate to say when Vitali is pulling a Floyd Mayweather Jr. because I'm sure there's an explanation to this, I do want to see this fight because I do think that Valuev can beat a european style with his own from the natural God given gifts given to him, but would have to be very careful with Vitali's volume and like with everyone else, clinch when he gets too close.
     
  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this is a filler fight between Haye's mandatory against Ruiz, and Valuev will finally get shopped down like a tree in the forest.

    Love to see it, get it on!
     
  5. FinalBELL

    FinalBELL Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would rather poke my eyes out. :yuck
     
  6. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Valuev would do more than fat ass Arreola of Peter, thats for sure, hell be would the best name on his resume.
     
  7. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    I'd like to see it. Valuev is durable, strong, with a bigger reach and fairly decent boxing skills. Stylistically, he could cause some trouble for Vitali. Particularly as he is used to using his height and presence as an advantage.
     
  8. Buddy87

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    I'm glad this forum is still hot. People think I'm crazy for my comments about Valuev, I don't know about chopping Valuev down like a tree since he couldn't even chop down Kevin Johnson! I know he was dipping alot but regardless when the man threw the jab, Vitali's straight right hand was crying out to hit back but couldn't because of his shoulder.

    Valuev isn't going to have the troubles he did with holyfield and haye because he doesn't have that type of foot work. Unless I start seeing Vitali doing Muhammad Ali in the ring dancing then it's the day I learned that Vitali can do anything.