Vitali vs Valuev

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Tell that to Don King.

    Vlad offered Valouev a fight for his titles, but Valouev refused, or rather Don King. Go check your facts.
     
  2. general

    general UNDISPUTED Full Member

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    Vitali by late KO
     
  3. JC2006

    JC2006 Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad offered Valuev the spot that Chagaev ended up taking. We're talking about Vitali and Valuev here, not Wlad and Valuev.
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitali has wanted to fight Valouev of a long time now, but he knows how Don King really is. Valouev will have to fight Don King's other fighter Ruiz next and Vitali can't wait, but he will fight Valouev. He has nothing to fear. Arreola or Haye is still being considered. Will Haye back out again?
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    wlad is more coachable while vitalai is on his own being he relies too much on his strength
     
  6. vorapsak2002

    vorapsak2002 Active Member Full Member

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    i think vitali is too good for valuev, vitali by ko.
     
  7. flying

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    Im waiting for buster douglas to get back in the ring and bring the title back toi the us
     
  8. Buddy87

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    My take on Nikolai Valuev vs Vitali Klitchko.

    To my oppinion, Nikolai Valuev has all the advantages needed to beat Vitali Klitchko, the question is..would he ever use them?:

    The advantages that Valuev has over Vitali are:

    Valuev has the height advantage, and when using that european style of boxing height is your best friend and most powerful ally, both Valuev stands in a perfect triangle shaped format where Vitali may have have his head dipped a little slanted backwards to avoid straight punches coming in from smaller fighters punching up, the question is; how would Vitali fair against a fighter who's jabs are coming down.

    Valuev is healthier than Vitali, though it may not look like it from the fight against Holyfield and possibly the fight with David Haye, styles make fights and what I mean is anybody that jumps on there feet in a circular motion is going to make Valuev miss, european styles like Vitali has two cemented hooves on the ground and with those cemented feet you got power in those punches, the problem with Vitali's power however. From looking at his last performance with Kevin Johnson it's obvious also to note that Vitali doesn't care for the body and acts like it doesn't exist, is that Vitali lost that power in his most important arm for the finisher, the right arm!

    Vitali could not execute the finish to take out Johnson because of it, when his jab would come and his arm would droop down and drag on the canvas, and it was calling for it all night to turn Johnson's head into a baseball with Klitchko's arm being the bat! Vitali has showed concern on his face when facing up against Johnson even though he missed over 800 of his punches he still proved superior over Johnson.

    I wish Valuev knew the physical power that was gifted down upon him because he's capable of landing power more powerful than George Foreman like I have seen a powerful 1-2 ripped to Ruiz but was blocked, if he would have landed that than it would have been to the emergency center level 7 for Ruiz.

    They both show that they can go 12 rounds without a hitch, for both men at such large sizes it still never ceases to amaze me.

    The #1 thing that can win Vitali the day, volume:

    Again and again Vitali has proved that with a slow and steady approach with a solid foundation can win you the day against his opposition, Peters Arreola and Johnson. Over 80 punches a round is absolutely phenomenal for this weight division and any weight division to be throwing at a consistent rate, this might very well be the deciding factor if what to come to win him the day once again.

    However, if Valuev can keep his distance and snap those amazingly good zipper jabs of his to Vitali's head, it could discourage him from doing any more work, I can't see Vitali ripping Valuev's head off to knock him out the mean has a better melon than Vitali, if Haye landed something like that to Vitali those solid legs would turn into a clown bopper. Morales throw a punch like that against Guty Espadas and laid him out cold, I have no clue how Valuev was able to stand from that only to say that he has the best melon in the game.

    I think when Valuev loses it makes him more determined and stronger and appreciate what he once had and was now taken away from him compared to Vitali's inspiration, what inspiration? the man who has beaten him is now done and enjoying himself on HBO as well as Byrd who the hell knows what he's doing now, last I seen he was battering some guy in the Cruiserweight division.

    Vitali is like a King who sits bored on the throne waiting for his next meal to come, if Chagaev were to fight Valuev in the 2nd fight instead of Klitchko Valuev would have tortured him with bigger and better jabs, the volume rate would have been a different story leading to Chagaev to suffer longer because the Chagaev that beat Valuev the first time would have nailed Wladamir's jaw coming in and took him out, not a man who tore his tendon and got a blood disease.

    To state some facts, Valuev and his team have been trying hand and foot to try and get this fight to happen with Vitali with Vitali avoid this fight at all costs, wouldn't pick up his calls and when they finally caught him a wedding with a promoter, he went silent and did not say a thing, lol.

    I hate to say when Vitali is pulling a Floyd Mayweather Jr. because I'm sure there's an explanation to this, I do want to see this fight because I do think that Valuev can beat a european style with his own from the natural God given gifts given to him, but would have to be very careful with Vitali's volume and like with everyone else, clinch when he gets too close.
     
  9. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    I can't fault your logic, but it could be that Vitali disposes of the big fella quicker than expected. Imo Valuev would at least go forward on occasion, that makes the fight!! David Haye showed that Valuev's chin isn't bombproof, far from it!! Imo Vitali wins this in 8!
     
  10. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good I for one appreciate that analogy:lol:
     
  11. wingchung

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