Vitali wants Haye - BBC

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  1. Boxing Fanatic

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    I'll believe it when I see it
     
  2. realdeal561

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  3. Tully

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    Man up Dave for f*cks sake..
     
  4. Overhill

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    That 'kill him' statement is a bit harsh. I don't like it. Especially because it's Vitali who has 'bad intentions' written all over him when things get personal.

    If I read right between the lines Vitali is about to retire next year..
     
  5. Flyin Ryan

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    So you're saying Haye is going to refuse Vitali's 50/50 challenge to fight him?
     
  6. MrWonderful

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    Sorry to go here, but the problem with Haye is just race. Not purposeful, but it's just ingrained in most people.

    People don't like him as he's a black guy who acts black, talks black, and is proud to be that.

    By that I mean, he's confident, brash, and loud.

    America has always had problems with this sort of athlete. From Ali, to Jones to Mayweather, not to Haye.

    You prefer your guys blue collar, humble, and white acting.

    Anyone with a brain realizes that Floyd Mayweather has taken tougher fights than 99% of fighters on the planet, but you'll all still insist that guys like Wlad Klitshko are the real warriors.

    Because he acts white.
     
  7. Ring Master

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    Haye should fight Vitali soon!
     
  8. shak

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    F K2 brother and their slave 50/50 offers, bring on RJJ, Hopkins, Holly.
     
  9. jc

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    I want to see a proper heavyweight title fight. just get it on!
     
  10. liger05

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    of course he does. Thats a whole heap of PPV cash which Vitali cant get anywhere else.
     
  11. Flyin Ryan

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    Oh f*ck that, this is boxing. The entire notion of the Great White Hope in modern times is it's a joke opponent that's always supposed to lose to the black guy. And Klitschko is a guy from the former Soviet Union! You're telling me Americans are going to cheer for Ivan Drago over Apollo Creed simply because Drago's white? Mayweather has a large fanbase in this country and he's nowhere near blue collar, humble, or white acting, he's instead demonstrated racism toward Filipinos.
     
  12. Tully

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  13. MrWonderful

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    You know, Haye has made this pretty clear a few times.

    The US media just ignore it. They're looking for their Mayweather replacement for when he retires.

    Can I explain?

    The UK is the only other PPV market in the world other than the States. Haye has a PPV deal and a TV deal.

    The Klitshkos couldn't sell a PPV between them, so rely on a big fat, lifetime RTL deal, which generally involves them fighting for peanuts, in endless title defenses, in Germany.

    Problem is, both K brothers want a big slice of Haye's PPV money, as well as 100% of their own RTL deal.

    Haye ideally wants the fight in the US. On full HBO PPV. As well as UK PPV. To maximize his (and the Russians) money.

    The K brothers aren't willing to do that, as it will mean them giving up their RTL money, so in return, Haye has requested that they demand less of his PPV money, to compensate.

    They won't. They want lots of his PPV money, and all of the RTL money, and the fight in Germany.

    To put it plainly. Haye makes millions fighting on PPV alone. From UK only sales. His purses are normally 2-3x what Vitali makes in a fight.

    The Klitshko's demands are basically like Floyd Mayweather asking Oscar de la Hoya for 80% of the purse, as he's the PFP number 1.

    When in truth, Mayweather got 30% and was grateful
     
  14. PavlO

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    R.I.P. Haye 1980 - 2011
     
  15. MrWonderful

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    I'm not saying this might happen. It does. It's academic fact.

    America has never done anything but hated typical black athletes. As in guys, who are overtly black, and proud of it.

    Why has America always loved Mexican fighters? Warriors? etc etc
    Why do they love Pacquiao?

    As that's everything the American dream is. Working hard, shutting up, and giving your all.

    I aint hating on anyone. It's basic sociology.

    America aint in a place where it can fall in love with Black Culture yet.