Vitali wants Haye - BBC

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  1. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Active Member Full Member

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    22? Where the hell are you getting your information from? He has 26.

    Oh yeah, we're instead going to take your dumbass opinion seriously now. :roll:

    The American media does not care about David Haye. They don't even really care about the Klitschkos to be honest. Haye's only time he ever fought outside Europe was he beat the 6-13-2 Vance Winn at the Playboy Mansion back in 2003.

    Why don't you read that timeline I posted. Every single line in there you can look up on Google and read the original article yourself.

    The American media? Uh, if you went and actually looked at most of it, it's British media, because the American media doesn't care too much about Haye.

    The one article I pulled out from this past April saying Adam Booth wanted Vitali was from uk.eurosport.com.
     
  2. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm just stating fact.

    People don't like typical black traits, as it's different to their own.

    Got to a college dorm, and you'll find white kids pretending to be black rappers, or black athletes, or sterotypical black people, to entertain each other,

    America doesn't like overt blackness. I'm not saying every black person acts this way.

    Look at George Foreman and Ali.

    One's the most beloved black athlete in the history of sport

    One's the most controversial.

    The media loved Foreman. Hated Ali.

    Why? One conformed. Acted white.
     
  3. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Vitali must be desperate for Haye now, after he looked so cautious, unimpressive & sloppy against Fraudley.

    Imagine Haye trying to paw & measure with his jab as he did against Gay Force, Vitali would easily neutralise it with his longer, better jab & land the straight right almost at will.
     
  4. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sup homie

    Why the hell is Haye running from whitey ??

    Also he has all those whiteys around him, hes an uncle Tom mang. like you:good
     
  5. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They aint biased.

    They just give them a lot of respect. Talk up their careers. Exaggerate them.

    Athletes that choose to conduct themselves in an overtly black way, don't get that

    They're used as figures of fun. Mocked.
     
  6. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jesus christ dude, either you really are playing with 51 cards or you're one hell of a troll.

    Either way, carry on.. I'm done with this crap, gotta get up to work tomorrow morning. :lol:
     
  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    didn't you read the timeline the guy just posted...
    and I have another fact for you.... he didn't have just 22 pro fights, he had 26 (even haye isn't that inactive). The incredible majority of his opponents had previously lost one or more early KO's.
    His championship record at CW is 2-1, 2KO's (Thompson/Mormeck/Macarinelli), at HW it's 3-0, 2KO's (Valuev/Ruiz/Harrison). His avarage opponents record up 'till the Harrison joke of a fight was 25-9-1. :deal
     
  8. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fool you must be white :hey
     
  9. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You all know what I mean. It's too obvious not to notice, once you know what you're looking.

    Look at black athletes in any sport. By that I mean, guys that don't conform to what the white media want from their athletes.

    Donovan McNabb?
    Lebron James?
    Floyd Mayweather?
    David Haye?
    Julius Peppers?
    Terrell Owens?
    Randy Moss?

    Some of the most successful American athletes in the world.

    Are any of them given the same respect as even, say Peyton Manning?

    Are they all characterized as having personal flaws:

    Cowardice
    Cheats
    Wimps
    Lazy
    Bad characters

    Do you actually think Terrell Ownes is the only footballer on the planet that's a bit of an idiot in the dressing room?

    Or do the media just like creating these black stereotypes?
     
  10. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're not gonna win with this guy. He can't answer my questions because he doesn't know what to say that won't make him look stupid, but he's done enough to make him look stupid anyway.

    Haye doesn't annoy people because he's Black. It's because he doesn't live up to his word. This is the same old white man against the black man bull**** that racists like you spew. It's OK to be critical, but I've seen too much racism on the part of people like you. It's so simple for you to accept generalizations because you don't have to think as hard. And you so easily use the American media as a fall back. **** off buddy.
     
  11. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's just ridiculous.

    He's a double world champion, at 2 weights, in 22 pro fights.

    He's fought for 4 world titles, in 3 title fights, at 2 weights. And unified one division.

    That resume smokes almost anyone in boxing, at that stage in their career.

    He's a fighter who went into his last 2 fights 50 pounds underweight. Fighting guys 50 pounds heavier

    Look at Adamek's resume in comparison

    Don't you find it funny that he's some small, heroic, brave warrior? Affectively taking nowhere near the risks Haye's taken in his career
     
  12. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    Yes I agree with you 100%. Haye should not fall for this trap. Vitali is a much tougher fighter than Wlad by far. To be honest I think Vitali will beat Hayes ass bad. Haye would have trouble getting to Vitali as everone does. Ask anyone who has fought them both and they all will tell you Vitali is the harder fighter. Haye should go after Wlad and ignore Vitali. He has nothing to gain by fighting Vitali. If he beats him everyone will say Vitali is old and over the hill. Haye has a great chance of beating Wlad due to Wlad having a very weak chin. Wlad still to this day is scared to death to get hit. That is why he holds so damn much. I think Haye has the power to crack Wlads weak chin. Plus Haye has speed unlike Wlad has ever faced before. Wlads jab and grab style will not work on Haye. To be honest Haye should go after Wlad as soon as the bell rings and if he does he can ko wlad in the first round. The only risk for Haye is that he also has a weak chin. But he should rush Wlad and hit him early. If he keeps pressure on Wlad he want be able to use his big right hand. Haye already knows Wlad will be the easy fight of the two. We can't forget what Sanders said about Wlads chin. Sanders said he had never fought someone with such a weak chin. Sanders claimed he never landed his best shot and still got Wlad out. Sanders also said that Vitali is twice the fighter WLad is.
     
  13. Flyin Ryan

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    Here I'll put your comments on the lounge and let people skewer you.

    Peyton Manning: 1 Super Bowl win, Donovan McNabb: 0

    So Manning is more successful than McNabb since they share the same position.
     
  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Byrd said Vitali is a weak bum that was easy to beat but Wlad was tough and murdered Byrd twice. So who to believe? :think
     
  15. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Man, it's simple.

    Black athletes are always characterized by the US media, in a certain way. No matter how successful they are.

    Usually one of:

    Lazy
    Cowardly
    Character issues

    So when you get a situation where Manny Pacquiao isn't fighting say, Paul Williams, over simple economics, the media explain this,

    When you get a situation where David Haye does this, it's because he's a lazy, arrogant coward, with character issues.

    When Tom Brady doesn't show up for spring training it's because of family commitments

    When Terrell Owens doesn't, it's because he's a lazy, guy, who doesn't care, with character issues