Vitali wouldnt last 3 rounds against a prime tyson, Foreman, and Ali

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  1. Irländsk

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    You just got PWNED by a clueless Zelenoff fan!!:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Yeah Ali would knock Vitali out in 3 guys...

    Ridiculous. :roll:
     
  3. Lacyace

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    Out of Ali, Tyson, and Foreman, the only fighter I could see knocking Vitali out in less than 3 rounds is Foreman.
     
  4. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    (speaking of which , wasn't Mercer robbed ?)...
    But let's talk about this competition...
    Holyfield...

    An atg for sure , but as good as he was. Let's not forget that he lost against Moorer , Bowe & Ruiz.

    Moorer himself (overrated) , couldn't beat a 45 yr old Foreman. (and Foreman's domination at the time also illustrated how poor the 90's were but it's easier to **** on today's era especially when it's dominated by foreigners)

    Moorer also got owned (in no time) by Tua.

    Bowe (overrated) , was schooled twice by Golota (but since the guy is mentally perturbed , he ruined all of chances of winning these fights).

    Lennox defeated Holyfield in 1999
    But so did the overrated Moorer & Bowe. (in 94 & 92)

    NOTE: if you're gonna tell me that both Moorer & Bowe would own Vitali. I'll respectfully disagree in advance , based on Moorer's embarrassing loss against a 45 yr old Foreman & Bowe being exposed by the extremely inconsistent Golota)

    Do you think Vitali would've lost against all these fighters ? Maybe , maybe not... But it seems like Lennox' competition wasn't untouchable for a guy of Vitali's caliber.

    You're also mentioning Tua.... So you think the 5'10 Tua (with a reach of 70) , (a bit of a punching ball against Lewis) , would've schooled Vitali ? Is is because of Vitali's loss against Chris Byrd ?

    Byrd wasn't schooling Klitschko. (& he was diagnosed with having a torn rotator cuff). The very same Chris Byrd was also defeated twice by klit's brother.


    Who else , in Lennox' resume was so out of reach for Vitali ?

    Rahman maybe ? A lot of fans used to speculate that he used to duck that guy. But was he really ? Wasn't Rahman koed out of the ring by Maskaev in 1999 ?...wasn't he owned by klitschko's brother in 2008 ? (lost against tua & ruiz too)

    Who else in Lennox' resume was out of vitali's league ?
    Botha ? McCall ? Mavrovic ? Briggs ?

    Briggs..(who made a name for himself after beating a 48 yrs old Foreman)..
     
  5. lefthook89

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    and how does that take away from his abilities and accomplishments exactly???

    or maybe foreman was just that good, when you can hit as hard as he can, why wouldn't he have a little success in the 90's despite being far passed his best? the guy is number 8 on ring magazine's top 100 punchers of all time for a reason.

    see my assessment on foreman, when you have THAT type of punching power, anything can happen

    and lennox completely owned golota, so whats your point exactly???

    and what does that have to do with anything? where are you getting at exactly?

    based on vitali's performance against the former golfing southpaw sanders, i would say moorer would have more than a chance of beating vitali, i consider vitali's power overrated as ive already mentioned. bowe was a very high work rate HW that kept constant pressure on his opponents, fast pressure fighters seem to be a klitschkos weakness. bowe spells all kind of trouble for vitali

    it wasn't untouchable, but vitali wouldn't have anywhere near the success lennox lewis had. since he has stuggled against fighters that would be considered c level bums if they wouldve fought back then (sanders,KJ)

    it was in reference to your claim of vitali's "amazing punching power", which i have cosidered grossly overrated, and contributes to the type of fighters he has faced. im saying vitali wouldn't have near the success or near as high a KO percentage if he were to face the same calibre of comp lewis has faced.




    personally i would say frank bruno, not saying he was head and shoulders above vitali, but he would be more than capable of beating vitali. vitali doesn't and never had possessed the speed, precision or athleticism of a prime lewis nor the explosiveness and concussive KO power of tyson.

    if he had enough to plaster a prime lennox lewis, whos to say he couldn't repeat the performance against vitali??



    briggs in his prime was a tall, hard hitting fighter with a good jab and great speed for a man his size. someone who can put good pressure on you can give vitali fits, but someone who is damn near equal in size, strength, and superior in speed and athleticsim could give vitali absolute hell.
     
  6. C.J.

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    My dear little wife popped her head in while I was watching Vitali-Johnson. She laughed & said " That kitchyko guy looks like Lurch of the Adams family " He does move a lot like Lurch I must admit LOL
     
  7. haglerforever

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    Tyson Foreman at their best both KO Vitali ,Ali 1963 to 1977 wins every round,Ali would knock him out late any time pre frazier 3.
     
  8. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    What a lot of **** this gut lefthook is talking.

    Vitali struggled against KJ? How the **** can you say that?

    KJ fought 100% in survival mode, and had the skills to do it. It's tough to look great when the other guy isn't interested in fighting. Lennox looked like **** against Akiwande, because Akiwande didn't want to fight. Doesn't mean Lennox didn't dominate that fight.

    Vitali won EVERY ROUND against KJ. How the **** is that "struggling"?

    In fact, since you say that Vitali OFTEN "struggles" with "C level opposition", would you kindly provide a list of fights that Vitali lost more than TWO rounds in? Shouldn't be difficult, since he so often struggles, has no power, and doesn't dominate his competition.

    :hat
     
  9. RUSKULL

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    True! :lol: I remember many of those fights, Peter McNeeley anyone?
     
  10. RUSKULL

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    That same George Foreman got out boxed by Tommy Morrison & a gift decision against Axel Schultz in a fight he most def. lost.

    The point is was big George that bad or were Morrison & Schultz that good? I mean most people would say Michael Moorer is a better boxer than Morrison or Schultz but he lost by 1 punch KO to George.
     
  11. lefthook89

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  12. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    kevin johnson anyone?? but who am i kidding, your next response is gonna be "KJ could give anyone in history a good fight since he took vitali to the distance", i guess i beat you to it huh?
     
  13. RUSKULL

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    Corrie Sanders was a light hitter..................the lightest hitter to ever step in the ring?

    You seriously need to proof the **** before you hit send. :good
     
  14. Vysotsky

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    He was stopped in his tracks by a monsterous Sanders Left hand but he wasn't "hurt" i agree. Not to mention how Sanders followed up with a nice forearm smash right to Vitali's throat, which he took no problem. Tough SOB

    :patsch lol god. If that's what you really think then just stop watching boxing

    Good post. Even Manny Stewart has stated multiple times how great Vitali is at making guys miss and countering. Manny has described Vitali as having a "sixth sense" when it comes to sensing when a punch is going to come at him. He praises Vitali's defensive skills.

    If you can't see Vitya's defensive skills or counter punching ability start watching another sport cuz you don't know **** about boxing.
     
  15. lefthook89

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    thanks for proving my point, only the most diehard of klitschko fans would place a mediocre clubber and former golfer so highly in order to inflate klitschkos career. sanders was a bum, in his own league his a hard hitter, but compared to the likes of bruno, briggs, ruddock, tua, or hell even morrison, are you kidding me??