Vitali:"You can't **** skill and ability up the wall"

WLAD staying alive in that match had nothing to do with Sam lacking power, and everything to do with WLAD doing Uncle Manny's "Jab & Grab..."

...Maskaev has a lot of wins on his record, they should have ended with Maskaev on his back if it was that easy.

 

Worked for Wlad vs Peter...worked for Ali vs Frazier.....Ruiz is the king clincher though...doesn't always work for him

 

Peter had Wlad down 3 times, made him initiate 97 clinches, turn his back frequntly, and caused him to have 3 panic attacks by my count, Wlad looked terrible in that fight, did he win? Yes, just like Ruiz, he won with his jab and grab technique.

Maskaev's chin is not that bad, watch the early rounds of the 2nd Rahman fight, he took a full powered overhand right to the jaw and didnt even get rocked, yet Lewis was one and done after getting caught by Rahman.

 

I think it would be hard to just **** up a wall.

 

Skills can mean nothing when you don't have the physical ability to apply it, he is still coming off a 4 year lay-off with serious near career ending injuries, that shouldn't be ignored.

 

Man I dont know, he would just say it. Why do you waste time flirting with a woman when all you really want to do is **** her? why not just walk and say "Hey, I would really like to screw you, and I promise to make you cum, wanna ****?". That surely would save time and money

 

Lets not practice history revision here. Wlad landed numerous right hands on Peter in that fight.

 

And Ruiz hasnt in past fight where he clinched around 100 times? Of course he has, even against Golota he landed some telling blows. I never said Wlad didnt land a good straight right here and there, but the jab and grab style was what won him the fight, could you imagine if he didnt clinch? It would be the nightmare he had in Germany against Corrie Sanders all over again, without Steward in his corner that night, he would of been yet again another knockout victim.

 

Come on. Compare how many times Ruiz hit Valuev with the right hand, with how many times Wlad hit Peter. My guess around 10 times as many.

I have no agenda here, just stating facts. Peter's head was a punching bag for most of the fight. His face looked like it has been through a meat grinder at the end of the fight.

 

What makes the Peter Vitali fight so interesting is the fact that Vitali seems to get riled up and is eager to start exchanging when he gets nailed.

Watch the Sanders fight.......there are a few instances where Sanders catches him, and Vitali takes it TO Sanders and they start exchanging, toe to toe. THere is the one fast shot that Vitali is caught with that catches him cleanly, and he seems a bit stunned and backs off in order to gather his composure..........but most of the shots Sanders catches him with cause him to give right back, creating real heated exchange.


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Peter and Vitali going for broke is gonna be wildly entertaining. But I think, as seen in this Sanders clip, that Vitali's immense height, and lean back style he uses to avoid punches is going to make Peter very frustrated and ineffective in many of these exchanges. Peter will have a hard time catching Vitali, and when he does miss, he'll get caught with a fast counterpunch that just make knock Peter OUT, as he's swinging a missed punch, and is off balance.

I happen to think that Sanders, at the state he was in when Vitali took him out, was a much faster, and even more powerful puncher than Peter is, now.

Bottom line.......Vitali is one, big, fast handed, powerful, iron chinned mother f***ker. Peter will be taken out faster and more easily than Danny Williaims was.

 

Wlad did land the right hand, but you act like he was catching him with punch after punch, like he did to Brewster during the first couple rounds in there first fight. Both men landed heavy blows, Peter's had the greater effect, judging by how many times Wlad hit the canvas and his reactions to the punches were almost laughable, the way he turned his back and seemed to run around the ring in horror during a few of those rounds.

As far as Peter's face being bruised up, of course it was, what do you thinks going to happen when you get hit by one of the hardest punchers in the face full blast? Look at Vitali after the Lewis fight, judging by each mens faces, you would of thought Lewis dominated Vitali in there.

 

Vitali has better skill than Peter, and it'll show come fight night.

 

Couple of things that haven't been explained well here. Not in your post specifically, but in all of the Vitali-Peter threads:

1) The lean-back style to avoid punches. Isn't this a question mark? His reflexes/timing might be affected by the layoff to the point where he'll get tagged trying to do this.

2) Why are people so bloody confident that Vitali can knock Peter out? His brother couldn't despite heavy punishment, and McCline couldn't finish him. Why is Vitali going to be the one to do it? He achieves KO's by accumulation of punches. We have no good evidence that Peter will be sufficiently susceptible to that.

I want Vitali to win, but it's far from a sure thing, and even if he does, maybe Peter will take him the distance. Everybody on both sides of the argument seems 100% sure it will be decided by KO. Maybe not.

 

gd points

 

Cause Peter is now softened up, it seems. I think the immense shots Wladimir laid on him caused him to now become more sussiptible to being hurt.

And while the mediocre punching McCline couldn't finish him, he did hurt him, badly........And Vitali is ten times the power puncher and finisher that McCline is.