Vitali's ATG Ranking?

HOF material? definitely, but he should retire.

K2s choke on the division is to strong. they're munching up everybody, they don't even give the prospect time to develop

 

He beat Sugar Manuel Charr.
He is above Ali now and right behind Sugar Nikolai Valuev.

Maybe he can be called sugar now too?

 

Vitali is HOF bound. It is a technicality really.

 

Have to agree with Bremen here.Whatever your view of Vitali he's a first ballot certainty and it's not remotely debatable.

 

HOF and top 25-30 ATG heavy

 

Undoubtedly a hall of famer, but his all time ranking sits at about 25 with no career defining wins or all time greats and a very weak resume.

 

I'd like to see someone have a go at proving this statement wrong.
Right on the button description of Vitali's legacy.

 

HOF,between 20-25 on top heavyweight list..

 

top 100

 

He has an atrocious resume, especially since his comeback. A succession of novices, well past-prime fighters, journeymen and outright bums. No reason to put him anywhere near the top 20. Top 30 at a push, if only for his supposed H2H ability that saw him lose to the 2 best fighters he fought. You can argue for his longevity but there are at least 20 fighters I can think of that would have been more emphatic against his opponents and they didn't have a tag team partner.

 

You are right in that they are not giving the prospects a chance to develop.
Look how few fights Chisora had, had when he agreed to fight Wlad and when he fought Vitali. Not even 20.
There are a couple of fights that could be a possibility. Haye rematch or fight other brother, Povetkin fight. Shame Valuev disappeared as he could have given them a fight with some experience

 

01 Louis
02 Ali

03 Holmes
04 Foreman
05 Lewis

06 Frazier
07 Marciano
08 Tyson

09 Holyfield
10 Johnson

11 Dempsey
12 Liston
13 Jeffries
14 Wlad

15 Schmeling
16 Bowe
17 Vitali

18 Patterson
19 Charles
20 Walcott

21 Wills
22 Sullivan

23 Tunney
24 Langford
25 Jackson

I doubt he will ever crack the top 10 even in retirement...Wlad probably has a shot at top 10 when their careers can be viewed in retrospect 5+ years after retirement when we can make a better guage of their careers.

Vitali is great no doubt (even if I am not enamored with his style...hey I hate Ali and rate him 2), but Wlad has the greater career by my estimation.

 

I am not a vitali fan, and that is fine....but to pretend to be a boxing fan and allow those feelings to cloud your judgement are a detriment to any credibility you are striving for...please list these top 29 HW's who are greater than Vitali?

 

Top15.