Vitalis comeback title reign 2008-2012

I respect your opinion mate, but I don't agree.

I watched the fight again just yesterday, and I gave Byrd two rounds. Vitali was in control.

Regarding his injury claim, I believe that he simply had to have been telling the truth about his shoulder, otherwise he wouldn't have had an operation on it less than a week later. So unless you think the operation never happened and it was all a scam, I really can't see an issue.

Look at the following links:

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...5L_ACQ&usg=AFQjCNHFjgAph-w5HVBu60LMOFFeJ3IPNA


Photo taken with Dr. Achim Hedtmann:

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That all looks legitimate to me.

He was then out of action for around 8 months before he fought Hoffmann.

After the Byrd fight, Wlad couldn't wait to fight Byrd himself to restore family honour. He's always looked up to Vitali. Now in my honest opinion, if Byrd had beaten Wlad, I believe that Vitali would definitely have re matched him. But after Wlad had beaten him, maybe Vitali had no desire to fight him again. Again, he was up on all of the cards at the time, and despite Byrd winning an official decision, it wasn't a clean win. So although a rematch would have been nice, I don't think it was a necessity. Personally, I can't really criticise him for not pursuing it.


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Despite having the use of only one arm and being in a lot of pain besides, Vitali was still well in control of that fight.. Had he been granted the use of BOTH guns he would have hammered Byrd to death.

 

Right. Byrd himself said Vitali was better. Vitali wanted a re-match but it never came to fruition when Byrd held a belt.

 

Once again you are wallowing in your own stupidity. No one gives a flying toss what you or the other idiot VVDD thinks about fighters.

The " facts " show that Peter won an interim WBC belt by beating McCline, then the WBC belt proper by beating Maskaev.

The other " fact " is Vitali came back after a 3 year and 10 month lay off and beat Peter and won that very same WBC belt.

What he DIDN'T do is have a 4 year lay off and comeback to fight a piece of ass wipe like Peter McNeeley, as one of your and VVDD's heroes did.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

That's really about as simple as it gets.. The who Wlad lost to outright kicked his ass. The men Vitali lost to benefited from injuries or fluke occurrences, although I will give Lewis credit for landing the shots that caused that cut despite being passed prime and on the tail end of his career. He was overweight and off for a year before fighting Vitali too.. Certainly nowhere near close to prime..But nevertheless Lewis was an ATG and the reigning champion and getting his butt kicked prior to that cut happening.

 

Yeah I saw it.. And I scored it about 6 rounds to 3 for Vitali. He missed but aside from making Vitali miss shots, Byrd did little else. You can't win a fight and certainly dominate an opponent by only avoiding shots. And again we're talking about a guys who for most of the evening was fighting injured.

 

byrd won it

 

when you are former middleweight facing a superheavy, you'd be daft not to concede that the SHW has the advantage,

 

HBO picked up the injury in round 3. 6-3 for Vitali is a good card as is 6-2-1.

A funny moment happened in Byrd's corner.

Father: Land the right hand.

Chris : You try to land the right hand on him!

If not for the injury, the cards would have been 7-1, and Byrd would be iffy to last the distance.

HeroGlee card is a joke. He's approaching Dino's status.

 

By the rules of boxing Byrd deserved the win and I don't have a problem with that. But why the hell anyone uses this fight to rate Vitali's head to head abilities and to doubt his chances in other fantasy fights is a mystery to me.. I mean its an absolute useless measuring tool, unless you're willing to bet on the same exact injury occurring at the same exact point in a fight with the same exact outcome.. Its like betting on winning the lottery twice in a lifetime, or getting struck by lightening in the same place twice..

 

hello. So you think, but explain... which bit of my posts is a joke again?

- you dispute that byrd won it? explain why.

- you dispute that byrd was right to say vitali was better? explain why.


yep tell me which statement you disagree with, or.....kliturd exposed once again.

 

^^^ I vote for Ban..

 

A mixed batch of quotes here. Yes-- I think your posts on this topic are a joke.

Yes, Byrd said Vitali was the better fighter

Byrd won only because of a bad injury, not because he was ahead on the cards...he was well behind. Vitali fighting injured was well ahead on the cards.


Official score cards:

Judge: Melvina Lathan 83-88 - Vitali
Judge: Dr Ruben M Garcia 82-89 - Vitali
Judge: Joachim Jacobsen 83-88 - Vitali

Harold Lederman, HBO's unofficial judge, had Klitschko ahead 88-83 at the time of the stoppage. Pretty easy fight to score. Nearly the same score for four people.

To clarify your position, what was your scorecard?

To clarify your position, if there was no injury who would have won?

Regards,

Mendoza

 

Yes, he was in control. And none of us know how Vitali's arm affected him. I don't know if Vitali would have hammered if not for the injury, but I've no doubt that he'd have gone on to win a clear and confortable decision.