Vitali's defense and stamina. Is anyone else impressed.

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Is anyone impressed with Vitali's defense? If seems like he has mastered the art of landing, and making the other guy miss. While a 6'8" 250 pound plus man is never going to look like Pernell Whitaker in the ring, he's still very effective even at age 38.

    In addition, I've never seen a 38+ year old fighter throw that many punches and move around the ring all night with less than a handful of clinches, and zero break on the ropes.

    While Vitlai has lost some speed, and some snap in his punches, his defense and stamina remain excellent by the standards of a prime heavyweight champion.
     
  2. McGrain

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    That's your fourth thread on the current HW champ this month. Maybe time to take it to General Mendoza?
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I know. But its a valid point. Were you impressed? In terms of punch stats if might surprise you to know that Vitali throws as many punches as Rocky Marciano and Joe Frazier did in their most active fights.

    Last night at age 38, Vitali threw an estimated 800 punches in 10 rounds, or 80 punches a round. Arreloa was game as a prize bull. He pressed the action, but could not land much or tire Vitali out.
     
  4. McGrain

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    Those are definitely impressive raw stats, for sure.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't know what the hell to say to anybody who still wants to dump on the Klitschkos...what the hell kind of standards are they pumping up to accomodate their prejudices against these two fabulous boxers? Both are in control of the heavyweight scene...deal with it you detractors. Wlad should keep right on doing what the hell he's doing...don't change a thing..and Vitali is one hell of a "robot" isn't he...he takes one victim after another..these brothers are at the top because they're THE BEST...what part of this do the detractors not understand? By the way, how many Ali fans are there that dump on the Klitschko's? Ali fought "smart" and didn't engage in meaningless slugfests...he held a lot...you could even say that many of his defenses, the "thrilla" of course being an exception, were DULL as hell, but dull only if you don't appreciate the the subtleties of boxing...maybe some of you guys SHOULD be watching primitive, rolling on the ground, "hit 'em when they're down" bull**** stuff like MMA and UFC, and leave boxing to those that know what the hell they're looking at.
     
  6. he grant

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    I agree with you guys. It was a terrific performance. He averaged ninety punches a rounf. He displayed great defense and ring generalship. He makes thye most of his skills and talents. I am also fairly certain at this stage part of his punching style is to compensate for his past leg and back injuries.

    Few like Goliath and of course there will always be those who are never happy let alone satisfied but you cannot please everyone.
     
  7. Cmoyle

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    "Both are in control of the heavyweight scene"

    More of a commentary on the sad state of the heavyweights these days.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, every time the Klitschko's step in the ring, they're putting their dominance on the line, and if no one can rise to the occasion, then so much the better...maybe some talent will develop somewhere, maybe it won't..so what?
     
  9. SuzieQ49

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    I LOL at all vitali fans who expected vitali to win by 1-2 round KAYO. they are finally realizing that vitali lacks one punch power. He is an arm puncher with no technique. This fight went the way I thought it would. vitali just leaned back with his tall body and slapped him with arm punches. Chris is just too inexperienced right now. Vitali did show me he is vulnerable, and I expect him to lose the title in his next 2 fights. Vitali is in great shape for 38 but he could be on roids. He tested positive for steroids BANNING him from the olympics in 1996. So he has a history there.


    It is very clear wladimir klitschko is far greater fighter than his brother and would kill him if they ever fought in the ring.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Clay,

    One sign of greatness is to tower above your competition. Conversely when one does this the field looks weak. Vitali's last three opponents were all ring magazine ranked and had a combine ring record of 101-2 leading up to meeting Vitali Klitschko. Klitschko, at age 37 and age 38 pretty much pitched a shut out in all three fights and stopped them.

    I don't think Ali, Louis, or any other great you can name outside of perhaps Lennox Lewis ( who was 37 for his last fight ) could do better at age 38. In most cases older champions avoid young un-defeated puncher and slick boxers like the plague. Not Vitali. With him its reversed. Ranked guys like David Haye don't want any part of him for now, as their is an easier path to win a world title belt in Valuev.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

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    Vitali Klitschko did not pitch a shutout, he lost rounds 4 and 8 against Arreola. The funny thing is this was probably the best fighter vitali ever beat, which shows you his lack of resume.

    The two best fighters Vitali ever faced, HE LOST TOO
     
  12. red cobra

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    Last night's fight went almost exactly as I called it, only 1 round more, and minus a knockdown, but unlike a certain columnist, I never predicted a 1 or 2 round blowout for Vitali. His strength is in the sustained, punishing attack he applies, the cumulative effect of a steady beating. He isn't a one punch killer, but is so effective and strong in his attack, that he usually gets the "ko".
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    Vitali lacks a punch, I agree. Wlad would destroy Vitali. Vitali would get badly outclassed.
     
  14. Locke

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    And you thought that Arreola would win. Same old same old.
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    You too have a sustained, steady attack, in your ongoing grudge against the Klitschkos. Get over it...they're the dominant forces in the heavyweight division, and they will be until somebody can man up and assert THEIR superiority. I'm sure also that somebody back in the 40's had a sustained, carefully nursed hatred for Joe Louis too, throughout his 12 year reign.