vitalis long layoff,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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  1. anut

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    do u guys think vitalis long layoff will hurt him against peter,,,,,,,,,,,i do...and i cant stand peter.............vitali will loose......hes too old:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke
     
  2. vargasfan1985

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    if he trains hard and spars ALOT he wont be so rusty

    he will be OK
     
  3. Suge Green

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    First off I'm a Peter fan, but Vitali couldn't return to face Rahman, or McCline...he's tried five times already. You do believe he actually tried right...???

    Sorry, the guy is done.
     
  4. vargasfan1985

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    i hear ya

    the way he dodged rahman was kinda shady. IM NOT SAYING HE WAS AFRAID OF RAHMAN. im just saying i dont think he wanted to fight him, period.
     
  5. Heavyrighthand

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    If he were the kind of fighter like Toney or Kirk Johnson, who can't control their eating, and their bodyweight is a big hinderance, it would be different.
    But Vitali is the kind of ultra professional, ultra disciplined and focused athlete who probably maintains a six pack, ALL of the time, so his body won't be enduring the hinderances of an up and down weight, and the drawbacks that that brings.

    He also knows what ring rust is, and will probably take every possible measure to prepare and to recreate the tough physical demands the fight will bring, at least, recreate it as closely as you can in a gym, of course.

    He'lll be more than ready, in my opinion. After seeing enough interviews with he and his brother, they know that you are to never take anyone lightly, and always give your all to fully prepare for each and every fight.

    I recall one interview where Vitali knew how good Wlad was, but was hesitant to tell him, cause he didn't want his head to swell, and it hinder his making prepareation the UTmost priority. Their discipline, conditioning, focus, and dedication to training is amazing.
     
  6. Suge Green

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    Of course...and it's at that point his body crack, again.
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    One has to question Vitali Klitschko's intentions at this point.

    Is he:

    A. Looking to make a serious comeback?

    or

    B. Is he only looking for one big payday?

    The reason I ask myself these questions is because in more recent times, when a fighter was serious about launching a comeback after a long period of inactivity, he typically begins by fighting a few journeyman and cubfighters to get his feet wet first. I suspect ( although could be wrong ), that given his difficulty in staying healthy, he's concerned that a low paying insignificant comeback fight against a journeyman or fringe contender may ruin his chances at a bigger purse, should he get injured. Frankly, I don't blame him, but I'm not sure if he will profit from such an approach. Had this fight taken place, 4 years ago, I would have easily picked Vitali to defeat Peter, but I can't favor him now. Of course, more bizarre things have happened in boxing, and its not entirely out of the question for an upset to occur. If there are two things that Klitschko still has, is size and power. Those are two things that don't just disappear over a few years, especially where heavyweights are concerned. He still needs to be a heavy underdog though. Sam Peter is 27 years old, has never been Ko'd, and comming off the biggest win of his career. In addition, the only man who defeated him, happens to be the concencus best heavyweight in the world, and Peter has arguably been his toughest fight in years. These things have to count for something.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see the unimaginable happen, but for now, I have to place the odds heavily in Peter's favor.
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    I think he was legitimately hurt during that time period. Vitali Klitschko has a documented history of being injury prone. He was well ahead in the Chris Byrd fight when is rotator cuff gave out on him. I can't see any reason why he'd all of a sudden get cold feet and quit against Chris Byrd, and for the same reason, I can't picture him being fearful of Hasim Rahman. He did in fact campaign on several occasions to make the fight, and I doubt that he or his people would go through all the trouble on multiple occasions just to pull a media stunt.

    Of course, I haven't a clue what the truth is, but it just seems unlikley to me.
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    Thank you, but why are you surprised?
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    To clear the air for a moment, I did in fact make the comment that he feasted on a lot of old fighters, which I still believe, but I don't feel that he built his entire resume on them. This was a statement that was blown out of proportion and distorted through the use of biased propaganda by a poster who apparently has a reputatation for doing this sort of thing, ( don't know for sure, I don't spend much time on the GF ). Also, my comments here were regarding Vitali, not Wlad, but my opinions on Wladimir, are not so opinionated as some would like to believe.
     
  11. RUSKULL

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    Vitali knew he wouldn't be 100% & so he did us fans a favor by not showing up less less 100% and killing any legacy that he had. There was no money in it anyway. Try to picture this:

    You're going to defend your WBC title against Iron Mike Tyson for loads of cash & suddenly you're fighting Rahman for a fraction of the proceeds...............

    Not hard to figure out if you do the math. This is prizefighting after all..................
     
  12. RUSKULL

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    Nah, Williams & Johnson are better technicians than Peter could ever hope to be. They have something called controlled delivery, not just swinging for the fences a la Samuel. Rahman is far better than Peter as well.
     
  13. swedeone

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    Yeah... he was really swinging for the fences when he destroyed and finished Maskaev with the precision of a surgeon.

    Comical. :lol:
     
  14. See Me Flow

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    Not without roids.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Grasping at straws.