Vitali's resume is packed to the brim with Baldomir-level opponents

Tomasz Adamek had a massive reputation going into his fight with Vitali. Vitali went and fought him in Wroclaw, Poland. After Vitali destroyed him, he got very little recognition for it. You could easily argue that was a better win than Wlad's win against Haye.

 

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Adamek is an average HW in this era of the K brothers. Mind you an average Michael Moorer was boxing at HW in the so-called 'great' 90s and won the IBF strap.

IMO Adamek is just as good or bad as Moorer. Moorer would be a good have been a good win for Vitali's record and so is Adamek.

 

i agree with TS to some extent, the competition isn't the best... yet the one thing to consider is how easily vitaly beats all of them, if the compotition fought eachother (in some cases they did) it would be a close afair and some times a mini war. I've never seen Arrola vs Admek but from what i heared (and i could be wrong) it was a close afair with a lot of action, yet vitaly made both of them look like below average. Vitaly recieved the most hate for his last two fights... yet he dominated both opponenets (Chisora and Charr) and i bet both of these guys won't be an easy fight for the rest of the heavy's.

Briggs was a decent win, but Briggs was too old and too out of shape, however i beileve Briggs would be a difficult fight for most heavys due to his heavy hands and above average counter punching ability. Peter was a decent fighter before he got destroyed... Vitali handled peter (who isn't a world beater, but never the less a dangerous opponenet) fairly easily even though he was coming out of retirmenent and had to shake quiet a bit of ring rust. Vitaly did lose to Byrd and Lennox but even then those fights were very competitive and he gave both of them all they can handle.

Anyways back to the main point. I would say most opponenets are average level fighters and would consider anywhere from C-B level opposition, the only A+++ level opponenet Vitaly ever faced would be Lewis and we all know how that went so no need to argue about it.

The funny thing is if Vitaly didn't make people look so ordinary we could have pottnetially had a very competitive division with people arguing about how good Chisora is or how good Tyson Furry is comparing them to Lennox Lewis, Evander, Mike Tyson.

P.S. sorry about poor spelling and grammer.

 

Moorer was a far better fighter than Adamek in almost every department.

A superior fighter with a better record he was a better LHW & a better HW.

 

Just a very very Stupid Original Poster and Thread! :deal

End Of Story. No More Needs To Be Said.

 

No need to argue with an idiot, when the idiot is wrong. :deal

 

I don't want to dwell or analyse his career that much. I'd just rather move on now the that K1 era looks to have started coming to an end. Thankfully.

 

Great post. Take K2 out the picture and the HW division is competitive with each other, just not against 2 dudes who can jab from across the ring.
Funny thing is, I can't really think of an era where there were more than 3 very good Hw's at one time.
During Joe Louis reign, the men were off to war, so he had the BUM-OF-The-Month-Club like TwoTon Galenta or an undersized Billy Conn who took him to the brink. Who did Marciano have? old timers? Who did Liston have? an undersized Floyd Patterson who wouldn't even be a Cruiserweight today.
And Ali fought guys who all beat each other.
Ken Norton won the title beating who? and lost it to who? Yup a sparring partner of Ali named Holmes who fought 20 average joes during his reign. Renaldo Snipes, a 16-0 Carl Williams whew, or a 10-0 Marvis Frazier, wow, what a resume..and George got his azz kicked by a 20-5 -2 Jimmy Young after the Ali fight.
Lets not even talk about the 1980's where HW's handed the belt to each other like an American politician handing out bailout dollars to corporations. Trevor Berbick, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Bonecrusher Smith...would those dudes have posed a fight to Vitali or Wladimir?
90's?
Tua dropped Moorer with a grazing shot in 20 seconds,,,& Moorer would survive a K2 shot? Tua fought like a coward against Lewis,..and he would have grown a pair against a chernobyl experiment?

Facts are facts- The HW division has never been an allstar division rather a division where we are fortunate enough to see one allstar player every 10 or so years and hope...hope they can find one nemesis.
And if it were the years of Jack Dempsey....heck you had to be the right color to fight him...so K2 should not be blamed for making the foes look so normal, they would have done that in any era- BAR the top two? of each decade from 1900-2000 K2 defeats all but about 5-10 fighters...thats not alot in a 100 years of boxing.

 

I have been watching boxing for over 34 years. I will not debate with an individual
that has made his mind up on baseless, misconstruction of the facts. To debate with
such an individual would be a waste of time and effort. Except my statement for what
it is or do not! I could not care less either way.

 

Good Post :good