Vitali's resume is packed to the brim with Baldomir-level opponents

Are u str8 up insane?

- Tua (u mean shot to pieces version that lost 2 times in a row to Monte Barret)
- Holyfield in the early '00s (didn't he have a very bad time then with multiple losses including a loss to Larry Donald who Vitali beat)
- Rahman (same would it make u feel better if he fought shot Rahman that Povetkin is fighting, their fight was planed, but cancelled if u remember)
- Chagaev (didn't have a relevant win after loss to Povetkin)
- Valuev (retired after loss to Haye)
- Thompson tell me how is he better than say Kirk Johnson?
- Haye (instead of ****ing Charr!!!) (declined a fight. thinks he calls the shots not the champion, whom he can fight whenever David wants)
- Ibragimov (retired after loss to Wlad)
- Brewster (shot after Liahkovic fight due to detached retina so shot he lost to Gbenga Oluokun)
- Liahkovic (Do u seriously expect a credible world champ to fight a guy coming of 2 consecutive KO losses)
- Chambers (after he lost to Wlad or after he lost to Povetkin?)
- Brock LMFAO
- McCline LMFAO
- Povetkin Still ducking everybody after he got his belt


So u would rather see a champion fight a bunch of old way past their best fighters who were coming of losses by KO or multiple losses then young and hungry contenders.

If u look at his record u will see that almost all of his opponents were in their primes coming of winning streaks. He even told Haye to have a tune up before he fights him. Vitali always wanted to fight strongest opposition available when they are at their best.

Unlike oh so many others that just want pay-days against names.

BTW Mormek, not to mention Tyson when he fought Mcbride was a far biger name than Chisora, Sosnowski or Charr but was he better at that point of his career?

 

He would have lost to David Haye provided all his toes are OK.

 

I love how you turned up immediately with excuses for every single opponent Vitali hasn't fought. Never change klittards. Hell, I don't even know why I'm bothering but here you go:

No, I mean early 2000s Tua who would've been a legitimate opponent and certainly better than any of Vitali's wins up to this date.

It would've been a semi-legit win at best but given that Holyfield went on to do some remarkable things like outbox Valuev this would've been a decent scalp had he fought and had he beat Holyfield - which we don't know.

I remember Vitali cancelling his fight with Rahman, yes. Four times I believe?

Could've fought him before. You know, in his prime or close to that. Why do you always pick the shittiest version of a boxer and argue that he would've done nothing to enhance Vitali's legacy? Vitali's career is longer than almost anyone's on here and he could've fought them at any time in their careers. What did Johnson, Sosnowski and Charr do to warrant a title shot?

Could've fought him prior to the Haye fight. Without a slave contract.

Thompson has an okayish win over Krasniqi which is better than what 97% of Vitali's resume achieved in their career. Kirk Johnson is one of Vitali's best wins obviously.

David wanted to be in Charr's place, Vitali declined. Is that untrue?

Could've fought him before? Could've lured him out with a proper offer? Hell, I don't care what the circumstances were, someone wanted us to provide names that would enhance Vitali's C-level resume and here they are.

Could've fought him before.

Well, he fought Charr, Sosnowski and Johnson without hesitation so I figure he doesn't care too much about the quality of his opponents. That said, prime Liakhovic would've posed a bigger threat than any of these bums.

Or after he whooped Adamek's ass (one of Vitali's best wins) with one hand? Or prior to that because losing to Wlad and having a competitive affair with Povetkin is nothing to be ashamed of?

Both were somewhat decent during their prime with McCline stopping Grant in 1 by freak injury after a hard knockdown. Brock also looked not too shabby vs Wlad in the early rounds. 95% of Vitali's resume merits a "LMFAO" tag, these two would stand out a little.

He's a *****, agreed.

You're putting words in my mouth. At no point did I state that Vitali should fight these boxers right on the spot. He missed a lot of chances to fight them by simply not addressing them whatsoever during his career and by taking a 4 years break. The fact that some of his opponents were undefeated prior to meeting Vitali means nothing considering that they usually fought bums until they got a title shot because the HW division was deserted.

 

I have to say, you are surprising me bane... i remember a few troll threads from before but in this thread you've been all class... even though you are probobly someone's alt.

Personally i think people are a bit too harsh on Vitaly. He could have fought all these fighters mentioned at the best time of their careers but he didn't... however Vitaly isn't one who would wait it out to avoid fighting the best... he was calling out LL for a long time before he got the chance. Vitaly doesn't strike me the type to backdown from a challange, he wanted to fight Haye but Haye only wanted a pay day and doesn't want to get into an unfavourable contract (rightfully so), however if you think you can win and easily at that (which Haye always claims) then enter into the contract... kick some ass and once you are the champ you will have the power to control the contracts in your favor.

People always talk about these slave contracts as if they will not make any money. I am sure for most heavyweights fighting one of the klitschkos would be their biggest pay day, why not take the risk? anyways now i am just renting... its too early and i didn't have my coffee.

the point i am trying to make is that Vitaly didn't fight the big names, but he sure as hell didn't quack any of them.

 

Vitali was unlucky to be with Universum for a good part of his career, but:

- opting for Sosnowsky instead of Valuev (about money);

- Charr instead of Haye (money issue);

- Danny Williams, Sullivan, Mahone instead of Holyfield, Rahman, Tua, Moorer, Brewster, McCall, Golota, Briggs, M. Grant;

Did hurt his resume.

These 5 flaws is what I consider to be unfortunate about Vitali's resume and he did enough to be blamed for it.

 

peter, solis, herbie hide

 

Vit's four fights after his comeback were pretty special, especially considering his age, the length of his layoff and the fact that he had no tune ups whatsoever. Can't really fault him for fighting Adamek or Solis either, as both were highly rated and, in Solis's case, given a good chance to win. Chisors was a solid opp considering he unofficially beat Helenius. Briggs, Sosnowski and Charr are pretty indefensible legacy wise, especially Briggs, though I suppose everyone is entitled to a soft defence here and there.

Pre-comeback, I can't think of too many quality names that Vitali failed to fight. Byrd rematch would've been nice, Tua fight, maybe Holyfield or Toney (though I suspect we'd be talking about how shot and/or undersized both men were), Hasim Rahman (though again old/shot/never that good to begin with), Ruiz maybe?

Most of the big names were either retired or past their best, or had suffered defeats to lesser fighters. Sure, from a casual fan's point of view, getting a Holyfield or a Toney or even a Tyson on his resume might have looked good, but I doubt they'd be considered particularly legacy defining wins now. Beyond that who was there? Golota? Yeah, that might have been a decent win, but no better than Sanders IMO. Rahman? Not much better than Danny Williams career wise. Neither of those names would have been much if any of a step up, though they would have added to his legacy in a cumulative fashion.

In fact about the only fight that Vitali really should have pursued IMO was the Byrd rematch. Very big question mark there.

Other than that, Vit's average resume is mostly a product of the times.

 

What question is there? He was soundly beating Byrd on all the scorecards with an injured arm. A rematch would've had Vitali beating Byrd by wide margin again, just like Wlad dominated Byrd twice.

 

Yet another fool who makes it sound like the heavyweight division is full of Muhammad Ali's, Tysons, Louis', Foremans, Fraziers and far more. atsch The Klitschkos fight everyone and everything the division has to offer, simple and obvious.