Its unfortunate that the weak state of the division will always be held against the bothers Klitschko. Truth is every 10 ten heavyweight has their losses that made them stronger/better as a fighter. (execpt Rocky Marciano). They are both lacking a Marquee Fighter to push them into the top 10 ATG. David Haye is not It. Had Vitali actually Beaten Lennox Lewis He would be a Slam Dunk. But he didn't (please see TKO6 for more butt hurt fans). Had Vlad not lost 3 times to inferior opposition and continued to box a saftey first approach he would have more fans, but he lacks that killer instinct. (or the lossses removed it). Either way the next 2 years will decide where they stand onthe ATG lists. Keep those Gloves up and Protect yourself at all times :bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb
Dominated the division for nearly a decade? He had a year, at best, on top of the heap after Lewis retired then he spent 2005 avoiding a fight with Rahman before retiring. When he came back from retirement in 2008 Wlad was the dominant force in the division and has been so ever since.
Wlad is an ATG based on his longevity as champion. Vittles may crack the top 25 based on his dominance but his shoddy comp is what brings him down. Unlike someone like Bernard Hopkins he simply didn't fight the best fighters later in his career to push him into greatness. I wouldn't call any fighter who lacks substantial wins an ATG. On top of this you have to look at the accomplishments of the fighters he did beat before and after. Not a single one went on to have any longevity as a top 10 contender. Take someone like Jerry Quarry, he wasn't the best, but he still fought and beat many top 10 contenders before and after his championship losses. Should he be considered an ATG? And if Vittles is an all time great than how can we not rank someone like Riddick Bowe ahead of him who owns two wins over another all time great and was the undisputed champion? Sorry Klitty fans, but Vitaly just doesn't make the cut.
JAB5239 is nothing, but a useless Vitali hater. Fact is Vitali has retired Lewis and been knocking contenters since then (barring a 4 year layof that only made him more impressive). LMFAO @ peeps that claim Vitali cuts easily. Please name me 2 other fights, but the King Pin fight where he was cut from a punch. Vitali a top 5 ATG deal with it haters. :hat
Vitali fought two elite fighters? (1 ATG) Yes or No? Yes Vitali was injured in both fights. Yes or No? Yes Vitali have a 100% injury ratio against elite level opponents. These are facts. If he had fought 3 elite fighters. He would have been injured 3 times. Chin don't mean **** when the rest of your body is utterly paper and glass. Facts show that he have a 100% loss record and a 100% injury record against Elite fighters. These are undeniable, these are written.
Vittles retiring Lewis after having his face severed off is about as realistic as Rahman retiring Vitaly. Its a shame you nor any other nuthugger can argue against my original post. Its also a shame you can't link a single credible historian that ranks your sweetheart in the top 10, can you?
Wlad beat no more than 5 world champs in a 60 fight career. All 5 of which aren't even HOF worthy. Longevity is only one factor, NOT the only factor. . He'll only be an ATG in Germany where David Hasselhoff IS ATG singer. ...
What did Byrd do to become HOF worthy? Nothing.... Show me a Wlad fight where he looked like an ATG fighter beating another elite level fighter?
Vitali has lost both his biggest fights. His best win is against a fat-semi retired golfer who had him rocked at one point. While his chin is great and H2H he's one of the best, his garbage resume will always count against him and keep him well away from the top 10 HW ATG list of any respectable boxing fan possibly making the top 20. Wlad's resume has the better wins but the far more embarrassing losses. Even more embarrassing are the excuses his fans make such as he was poisoned vs brewster or 'green' vs sanders. Wlad is probably top 15 HW but you can argue that he deserves a top ten berth (in tenth position) These are facts, these are irrefutable... deal with it
I see you in the British forum hating on Tyson Fury like there's no tomorrow.."USS is a cruiser weight" cry cry, boo hoo...Grow up, ****ing ******....Nothing worse than little rats like you crying "haterz haterz , mommy he's talking bad about my boxer"
Haye is not an elite heavyweight. On top of that , Wlad put in a feeble performance against him and beat him on an extremely low out put...Byrd's best years were in the 90's where he was ranked as a super middleweight.