With no prospect of stopping Vitali (at least with Wlad there was a miniscule chance) Haye hasn´t got a prayer to win this. People say Haye is fast and all, and that is true, however, he totally neutralizes his speed throwing only a few punches per round, and these are wild inaccurate, amateurish punches that reek of desperation. With Haye speed does not equal volume and some people here assume that it does. Wow, in this fight Haye would be dust the minute he chooses to stand toe to toe with Vitali or he can run and loose a lopsided decision because Haye is not an effective mobile puncher imo. We saw this with Valuev and we saw this with Wlad. He does not mount an effective offense when he moves. He looks clueless and without a purpose (other than to survive) when he is mobile.
if its possible you could pull your tounge out of vitalis ass and take a rational look at things, vitali doesent make the most of his height haye has showed good movement its entirely possible, the one thing i will agree with you on is that haye dont want nothing to do with him but he should becuase as i said before he could outbox him
****ing hell, I thought this was a wind up but some seriously think haye has a chance against vitali when even haye himself knows he hasn't got a chance. Vitali hasn't been knocked down in his boxing career and has won nearly every round in his last several fights. How does haye beat a guy of his caliber when haye shits his pants at the prospect of getting hit hard and hardly throws any punches and is afraid of guys taller than him?
Haye looked like crap, because he fought someone like Wlad. He has never looked like crap before. I think he is doing well as long he has the upper hand in speed, and against Vitali, he has. Wlad only barely outboxed Haye. And Haye has a bigger chance to stop Vitali than he had stopping Wlad. Vitali is older, slower, and therefor faces a bigger risk to get hit flush. Ironchin aint worth much if you are hit cleanly as a HW.
Solis didn't even last a round against Vitali FFS, there is barely even a fig leaf there to cover the hole in that argument. Better comparisons would be Arreola and Johnson. If you saw those fights, you saw VK showcase two different ways he can fight and thoroughly outclassing guys who are at or around Haye's level.
Thing is, Haye doesn't land "flush bombs" against the big badasses at HW. He barely landed anything of note against Valuev and had very little against Wladimir. What in the world would make you think he would do any better against the most composed guy in the division? Wladimir and Vitali have different attributes, but Vitali's don't bode any better for Haye imo.
I don't think you're one to talk about rationality. Haye doesn't have a hope of beating Vitali. Vitali isn't afraid to take a punch, unlike Wlad. He has the luxury of being able to unload on Haye without the fear of getting knocked out. So Haye either runs away for 12 rounds or he attempts to win rounds by letting his hands go and gets knocked out.
Haye breaks Vitali down and retires him on his stool, Hayematrix TKO4 Quitali. Old Quitschko has seen his best days, i see no chance for him against Haye with 2 fully working limbs.
It's going to be interesting to see how Haye responds to this. I expect a "I have no beef with Vitali" kind of reply. Bottom line is Haye would make more money fighting Vitali than any other heavyweight out there right now. Maybe that one more huge paycheck will bait him into getting his skull cracked by big bro. Then he can go make his acting career skyrocket and win an Oscar :roll:
Vitali would have some trouble to hit Haye clean. Haye really has very good reflexes and he is fast. The problem is Vitali's workrate and fighting spirit. Vitali wouldn't be as cautious as Wlad was. He would try to finish Haye off and chances are good that he would succeed. Haye has no chance to KO big Klit with a single punch and he has no chance to win a decision. The fight is pointless for Haye, but I'd like to see him quit on his stool...
LoL! Problem with that is Vitali will probably accept the 50/50 split and make a spooky you tube video telling Haye to sign the contract. After that I can see some injury claim from Haye, and maybe a "it's a little too far past my 31st birthday" excuse.