Vivek Wallace's take on the PBF/Pac Dilemma

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  1. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Vivek makes several errors in his points...comparing Pac to Barrera and JMM, who are much older, isn't accruate or fair.

    Also, Pac has been knocking his opponents out more frequently due to his much improved boxing skills...not from immense power.

    The initial reaction from all three victims after his last three KO victories, were resounding...

    All three men stated that the biggest obstacle throughout the fight was that they couldn't see where the punches were coming from...does that sound like he's knocking his opponents out with power alone? No. He's fighting at angles now and turning his opponents when countering.

    Question: Which shots hurt the most in boxing?

    Answer: The punches that you don't see coming.

    Also...pac is not refusing to take a blood test...Vivek consistantly repeats this false statement throughout his entire segment. That seems to be the biggest misconception here.

    Bottom line here: There is too much ignorance floating around the media now...people have already formed an opinion...Pac needs to comply with these ridiculous demands now...he has no choice...Clean or not, the consequences will be disastrous if he refuses.
     
  2. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    correct me if i'm wrong, but i really doubt anybody is demanding for blood to be drawn the day of the weigh-in!!
     
  3. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correct, + if u are clean, you would (usually) be more than glad to prove it to any and everybody with a grin in ur face, not to mention to make ur critcs look wrong!! Sadly for Pac, is a bit too late now.... he could've been doing this forever & now stop it 4 this fight because of all of what's going on... the fact is he didn't want to submit to something any clean, respectable athlete would've done without hesitating in the minimal!! Let's not be complacent with this kind of s**t in this sport... Zero tolerance 4 this should be the rule!!!:twisted:
     
  4. mancat

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    I heard it differently than you did regarding the rise in Pac's KO% over time and through higher weight classes. He compared Pac's earlier KO % of 66%, which he claims is not great, to other fighters who have moved up in weight. Specifically, he mentions Duran and PavliK. Pavlick had a 86% KO rate at middleweight, but only a 64% Ko rate at super middle. Duran had a 95% Ko rate at lightweight, but a 58% KO rate when he moved up. Wallace questions how two known KO artists have lower KO %s when they move up in rate, but Pac, with a very average 68% KO average at the lower weights has a 3% increase in KO % when he moves up. That rise makes Wallace feel something is fishy when coupled with Pac's refusal to submit to RANDOM testing.
     
  5. Ripple633

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  7. Rooney

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    Im in total agreement, *******s cant handle facts. This guy would win a debate any day of the week with any of the biggest nuthuggers who refuse to accept that Pac may have something to hide.
     
  8. marsb8888

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    Vivek finally came out and showed his true colors. He's a diehard floyd nuthugger. That 1000 behind vivek are all crackheads like mayweather sr. Using the inconsistent statements made by roach as an argument that he now believes there's valid reason we should doubt pac is on ped is really weak. Roach doesn't consult with pacquiao on what pacquiao's stance is on most matters before making statements to the public. We all saw what happened while negotiations were going on in the hatton and cotto fights. Manny's guys were issuing statements left and right contradicting themselves on so many issues. And this time regarding the bloodtest is no different.

    Next came his ko ratio while moving up in weight. He's saying that pacs ko ration improved when he moved up which go against the normal convention. Marquez made two devastating KOs against two top 135 lbs guys when he moved up. And we all know Marquez's optimum fighting weight was at 126/130. Who's to say that Pacquiao's optimum fighting weight wasn't really at 106-130 but was from 135 to 147? We all saw how pacquiao improved not only his power when he moved up but he also improved his skills by leaps and bounds. And no drugs that I know of has the effect of improving one's defensive skills, offensive skills (angles) and strategy in a fight.
     
  9. Babality

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    lmao!!!!!!!
     
  10. Rooney

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    Your hero is a ****ing cheat!!!
     
  11. shinkijin

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    I think Pac had only 4 KOs in his 1st 14 fights, so the stats aren't telling everything as it really is (I could be wrong). Vivek doesn't seem as impartial as usual.
     
  12. darryl1914

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  13. NALLEGE

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    Pac's been cheating long enough...It will be a shame when PAc is finally caught lol... ****ing big, wide ass, waffle iron head...
     
  14. darryl1914

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    :lol: