Vladyslav Sirenko deadlifting 240kg easily for reps video

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    100% fake weights. lol wtf.
     
  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ also lifts heavy weights. It definitely improved his strength, and no one questions his boxing ability and good speed for such a big guy. So it's rather helpful and that workouts must be in boxer's schedule.
     
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  3. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Every heavyweight I know of uses weights. Even Haye when he was 210 pounds, could bench 400 pounds and nobody called him slow.
     
  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I was the only one at my gym that trained in combat and lifted very heavy . I had a former world championship kick boxer back in his day come up to me and was shocked to see me training like that bc he told me i had one of the strongest left hook he ever saw and didn't corelate lifting heavy how it can produce power and speed ( he even advised his clients against it AFTER watching me days later...lol ) .

    Its ironic how just hearsay is passed down from the old school and is considered by many a fact and goes unchallenged. Bruce lee even in the 60's told everyone that the stronger person has the advantage even if things are almost equal.Knowledge about weights has always been around but unfortnatley old school trainers rarley used them for their fighter( foreman had to SNEAK into the weight rioom after his trainers left bc they told him not to lift weights... .Ive always been a big advocate of it going back in the 80's for any type of athlete ,i know whats was what.

    MOST fighters i know dont lift weights...they only cheat themselves.
     
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  5. junkhead

    junkhead My dogs watch me post Full Member

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    not really that impressive for 22. When I was I got my first shore posting in the Navy my LCDR was an ex competitive power lifter, I used to train with him daily, at 84kg bodyweight and 20 years old I had a 230kg squat, 260kg dead and 135kg bench. That was after 7 months of 5x a week hard training. Anyways going to powerlifting meets I was pretty bang on average with my lifts, nothing really special. Seen 16 year olds pull as much as me while weighing less, it's insane.
     
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  6. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foremans max lifts. That would be something I am interested in.
     
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  7. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think there is a big difference between someone training specifically for strength and size, and boxers doing extra training for strength and power.

    Saying that your friend sounds like he has freakishly good genetics.
     
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  8. junkhead

    junkhead My dogs watch me post Full Member

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    I was more referencing age aspect, age doesn't have much to do with what weight you can pull, it's more BW. but deads are very unspecific to training, you could have never done one in your life before and still have a massive one. I've had a friend I was teaching to deadlift go from 120 to 225kg on his second day, he weighed about 95kg and wasn't a big guy, never really went to the gym, was more of a running and push-ups guy, just lucky to have the right levers that made the pull easy.
     
  9. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I dont beleive he maxed lifted he did strong man type training though like pulling cars ,farm work..etc..
    You dont really need to max lift as much as your just keeping the muscles strong for a fighter bc theres alot of wear and tear on your joints/tendons and muscles for power punchers.

    I never went overly heavy on squats or dead lifts just maintained adequate strength,i did go very heavy on arms ,lats with various pulley systems ,dumbells,resistance strength..etc...power is going to be generated through the core and upper movement before anything. I had a strong lower back to execute maximum torque and support with power punches. Sirenko is using adequate weight no need to go much higher than that really . When he can do 6/7 reps easy and in good form thats enough for a fighter.

    The constant punching is strength training in itself on a heavy bag IF done correctly,, I had a fighter stop training with me bc i had him use the heavier harder bags at the gym the one i posted of myself on here...,he said it hurt his hands so i didnt waste my time with someone like that...lol. He is 3 and 0 in the ams now but hits soft for a cruiser weight. His father was a bare knuckle champion down here who i also fought. That apple fell too far from the tree, that kid hurt his hand while I WAS holding the pads for him bc i was holding the pads to tight?...isnt it supposed to be the other way around? ..lol

    I believe strongly in weights ,i know from my own experience how it developes power. It would be foolish and unrealistic for anybody to argue that point with me.
     
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  10. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What is the best way to train for power on the heavybag?

    I think I seen your video with the rapid hard hooks.
     
  11. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bad form, it might mess up his back. That's how you have to do it.

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  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Low hanging bag ( my bags are only 5 inches from the floor and 5 inches of chain hanging on a 6'foot long bag) the heavier the better,really the bag shouldn't move much bc you want it to mimick a human body .In real life when you hit someone they dont sway back and forth away from you,and when a bag sways its hung to high and theres little dead weight you are hitting. Momentum is doing all the work. You generate and train the muscles to hit harder when theres more resistance what you are hitting.

    You cant develope maximum power without training your muscles to punch threw a more stationary object which should condition your arms to get used to shock absorbtion ( energy coming back at you when you that travels up your arm sometimes even causing head aches until you get used to it) power transfers through your tendons bc thats whats really absorbing the shock coming back at you ,the less pain they feel the harder you can punch without hurting your arm. Strong wrist /forearm is key ,that strengthens the hand which is the first thing to make contact with the target,as long as that holds up you can keep increasing power if you are able too with less risk of breaking anything. Hand strength excercises are highly recommended in itself.
     
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  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The form looks abit off he has to be careful for injuries but he definitely is strong.
     
  14. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This guy is probably alot shorter so the form is a better and hes using hand straps which make it far easier.