Voluntary and Mandatory belt defences

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  1. Cornish

    Cornish Member Full Member

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    Can someone please explain to me how these two categories of defences work with each governing body. Because it seems to me that different rules for different boxers. For example Wilder and BJS seem to always fight mandatories, whilst boxers like Joshua and Golovkin can pick and choose their opponents for the most part.

    Am i misreading things or are the rules bypassed depending on your PPV sellability? Is it one mandatory followed by one voluntary? How does it all work. Thanks....
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Money dictates everything.

    The IBF seems pretty iron-clad about forcing the mandatories, though.
     
  3. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Spinal! Full Member

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    Wilder always fights mandos? Now i've heard everything.
     
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  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    True, Floyd didn't have to bother with mandatories at all after his comeback. The only time he fought one was when it was quite a farce and he justified it with him being the mandatory. Some others have to plow trough them to keep hold of their many belts, like Golovkin
    So... it seems you're trolling...
    The rules are the rules until money changes the rules.
    Only thing that can stop these things are court cases, like when the WBC almost got bankrupted by Roccichiani (or something like that) and the danger the WBO faces with Trout now.
     
  5. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you're getting Golovkin and Wilder confused.
     
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    The last WBC mandatory at 147 was in 2014.
     
  7. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    It's a mystery. They do what they want.
     
  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    The last one at 160 is so long ago and such a mess that it's hard to determine what the actual last one was.
     
  9. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golovkin has picked and chosen his opponents? He's fought his mandatories for the most part.

    Read up on WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO defense rules. Might be a lot to read, but it's better you research things and lean them rather than have other just tell you what they think.
     
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  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    2012 Chavez Jr vs Martinez. :lol:
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    That's what I mean. Technically that wasn't even the #1 contender vs the WBC champion, but the WBC champion vs the Diamond/in recess beltholder.
    So it's even further back in time.
     
  12. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Basically the WBC's ethos is "we do whatever the **** we want when we want" so mandatories come and go when they please according to no logic.

    And the WBA has a belt for nearly every human on the planet so mandatories don't mean anything.

    IBF do stick to their rules but their rankings seem as random as a magic 8ball.

    WBO are just rubbish.
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Good story with that follow:
    The prior mandatory to Jr. was the then WBC interim chamü Sebastian Zbik, who was to challenge Sergio Martinez.
    HBO turned that fight down!
    HBO then offered Martinez a fight with Serhiy Dzinziruk. (the nr 1 guy at 154 back then)
    But why Dzinziruk? Because he came with a deal that Gary Shaw made with HBO. (to make Timothy Bradley vs. Devon Alexander)
    And what happened to Zbik? Well he was elevated to full champion and got a fight with Chavez Jr. on HBO...
    On HBmother****ingO! (Jr made his HBO debut, first and only HBO fight for Zbik)

    I found that Marco Antonio Rubio was the mandatory opponent for Chavez Jr. Not 100% sure but it seems so.
    So either it was Rubio in 2012 to Chavez Jr. Rubio to Kelly Pavlik in 2009 or Winky Wright to Jermain Taylor in 2006.

    Someone please correct me if im wrong. (i really hope im wrong)
     
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  14. tommyg6

    tommyg6 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    one thing I always wondered,
    if a mandatory fights the champ and loses, how far down the rankings does he go from losing?

    like for example, Charlo is currently the WBC mandatory to Golovkin, if he fights him and loses to GGG, he drops down a lot in rankings?