Vote on who has the better resume Jones or Spinks

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Commando, Jan 16, 2011.


  1. Commando

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    :yep Suck my troll dick, it's the official poll. Hows it going Addie? :hi::blurp



    Michael Spinks

    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Larry Holmes x2
    Yaqui Lopez
    Marvin Johnson
    Gerry Cooney
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi


    Steffen Tangstad
    Mustafa Wassaja
    Eddie Davis
    Johnny Davis




    Roy Jones Jr.


    Bernard Hopkins
    Antonio Tarver
    John Ruiz
    James Toney
    Thomas Tate
    Montell Griffin
    Jorge Castro
    Clinton Woods
    Virgil Hill
    Thulani Malinga
    Reggie Johnson
    Eric Harding
    Merqui Sosa



    Tony Thornton
    Mike McCallum
    Jorge Vaca
    Julio Cesar Gonzalez
    Vinny Pazienza
     
  2. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You forgot to include Otis Grant, Richard Frazier, David Telesco, Bryant Brannon, and Eric Lucas among others for Jones. Such a stacked resume of world class fighters.
     
  3. Commando

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    Oh yeah you're right I also forgot to add

    Jim MacDonald, Murray Sutherland x2, Jerry Celestine, David Sears, Oscar Rivadeneyra and Vonzell Johnson.....thank you man very much.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

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  5. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clearly Spinks has the better Heavyweight resume. but Jones started off as a Middleweight. Spinks unified the Championship, by beating Qawi. Then derhroning long time Heavyweight Champion Larry Holmes is very impressive.
    Jones also was very impressive as a LightHeavyweight. He defeated many good fighters & defeated a Heavyweight Champion. A great achievement for a Middleweight... Both great fighters, with individual achievements. very hard to compare. But then again Spinks was never stopped below Heavyweight...
     
  6. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spinks clearly has the edge here, he dominated a deep LHW division moved up and dethroned a longstanding LHW Champion. Jones jumping from weight class to weight class has depth but when assessing his resume the quality of the win for Micheal Spinks outweigh the depth of Roy Jones Jr.'s resume.

    2 things are clear;

    1. This is obviously a loaded question as you've recycled your post from a different thread because you think Jones has a better resume than Spinks. We are all entitled to our own opinion.

    2. Spinks had only fought in 2 weight classes and therefore comparing Jones's MW all the way to HW you'll be able to find more competitors to add on the list even though some of the names you've included are average to mediocre fighters at best and are better off excluded. And Where is Cooney under the Spinks column?
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is not even close, Spinks was THE Light Heavyweight Champion in arguably the strongest era of the division.

    Jones should of, could of, but never did. Glimpses of brilliance do not cut it in the long run. RJJ made the money, but lacks the credible resume to compare with the greats.
     
  8. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    If i was just looking at the top few wins i would give it to Spinks but i think Jones takes it on depth here.
    If i was just looking at LHW then obviously Spins takes it again but Jones movement up the weight classes makes some of his wins more impressive.
    The Holmes wins is better than any of Joneses wins Then Qawi is comparable with Toney and after that i think Jones wins become more impressive in comparison although the Muhammad and Johnson wins are still pretty damned special.

    I think i would have Spinks higher if i changed my criteria rather than my opinion on him. Both great fighters .
     
  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats what I think too. Jones chose to follow the money instead of glory. Anyway, like I wrote in another thread, compare their Top5 wins and it´s easily Spinks, compare their Top10 and it´s close, compate their Top15 and it´s Jones.
     
  10. horst

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    As I explained on a different thread the other day, I go with Michael Spinks.
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones rarely met anyone on the top of their game. Even the Toney fight, it could be suggested James had peaked, and lost that edge.

    Spinks came into his biggest fights as an underdog in many peoples eyes. Qawi was in simply awesome form, and although 35, Holmes was 48-0 and history tells you reigning Light Heavyweight Champs, never win the Heavyweight crown...

    Spinks gave up his early years as a pro to injury and helping Neon. Jones made a good start, but let his dad have too much influence, and wasted early momentum.

    Spinks fought the best on offer in his pomp. Jones was to interested in gimmicks, playing basketball, and names that made him money, rather than the fighters that would help give him credibility to his future resume.

    Also look at the tough fights, Spinks won his, if everything was not going right for Jones in a bout, he found a way to lose.

    Jones should of finished his career being compared to Robinson, instead he is being compared to Spinks, unfavourable...
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All true but nevertheless in terms of depth it´s Jones IMO. He fought over a longer time and more divisions and so just added more names on his resume. At the Top Spinks has the better resume, no doubt, the deeper you go the more the odds change to Jones´ favour. It depends what you like I guess and what you factor in. For example, is it more worth to become the champ in two divisions or winning belts in 4? Like I said in another thread, I go with Jones since going up from mw to hw and beating a decent contender there is just great. I won´t argue with people who have Spinks ahead. It´s close and depends what you prefer. Most of the time I go with longevity and unique achievements as the decider, that´s why for it´s Jones.

    Something went terribly wrong here though, I´m the resident Jones-hater and defend him here? :huh

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    I absolutly agree with you. I´m so dissapointed in him, same goes for Mayweather, Tyson and Hamed - who all could have done much more too but didn´t.
     
  13. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes was clearly past his prime, not to mention defeated rather mediocre opposition (Jones' reign looks better than Holmes') and should have had 2 losses on his record before facing Spinks. How that is better than Jones' win over Toney, I don't know...
     
  14. TBooze

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    Not least because Holmes could fight at his natural weight. He did not have to figuratively kill himself to make the same weight as Spinks and then put 10/15lbs on overnight...

    Spinks winning was very much a minority pick, Toney/Jones was a classic pick'em. And if Holmes should not of been 'and 0', neither should of Toney (McCallum, Johnson, Tiberi, Sosa, Williams). The reality was both were!
     
  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney was either #2 or #1 P4P at the time, undefeated champ at two weight. Holmes was at the time (or taking his career as a whole) a 35-years old heavyweight titlist with an average career. Odds have little to do with the significance of a fight.