Vote: The Truth About Chocolatito

Yeah, Rungvisai is only world class belt holder level, not undisputed champ weightclass kingpin level. Inoue and Estrada are pound for pound quality, as was Gonzalez until recently, but even Cuadras can and has beat Rungvisai. Rungvisai is very tough, very strong, throws a great body shot, and that's about it. He's sort of like a Marcos Maidana, Giovanni Segura type.

 

Sure, you are right, I thought that román would win to rungvisai too, both times. Still, the problem was not rungvisai being ordinary and beating a p4p champion. The problem was me, thinking that this guy was not good enough and that he couldnt perform like he performed in his last couple of fights. I've fixed my opinion about him, I just told you that you should fix yours too. Anyway, not so important, we are arguing about nothing actually.

 

Rungvinsai is way better than maidana. He knows very well what he's doing in the ring, and he knows extremelly well how to play his cards as a southpaw. I cant see any orthodox fighter winning to him now, but estrada or maybe inoue. You all will think I'm crazy, but I would favour rungvinsai over cuadras, for instance. Estrada and inoue... That I would love to watch, dont know what to say...

 

I see the majority have got it right.

Chocolalito was only ever rated #1 p4p because of how weak the competition was, Ward was inactive, Golovkin was unknown, Crawford and Lomachenko hadn't beaten anyone, etc.

In hindsight that may have been a bit too high but he did deserve to be high up on the p4p lists regardless.

 

I don't think that's crazy at all, I'd favour Rungvisai myself there.

 

CUADRAS ALREADY BEAT HIM!

 

This, there's no legitimate reason as to why he should ever have been #1 p4p, it was just an absurd timeline.

He was showing his vulnerabilities as he was moving up in weight, the dominance wasn't even close to being there anymore.

Then he gets knocked out by Wangek.

 

This fight was weird as F, it was stopped by a cut, it wasnt a full fight. And it was 3 years ago. I say that rungvisai wins to cuadras, now, no cut BS.

 

Im going with the second option even though i had him at #1. Chocolatito was placed at the top at a time when there was no clear #1 based on the fact that he was a clear top p4p with the fewest question maeks above his head at the time. I do think he deserved his rank but it was also at a convenient time.

 

I've rewatched the fight, because I remembered it being weird. Cuadras basically won the first 6 rounds, and in the seventh round he was in survivalmode because he had no gass and was caught to the body. He was about to receive a serious beating.

Suddenly, he's cut in the FOREHEAD, not the eye, no, the forehead, and because of that they stopped the fight and cuadras won. Honestly, I dont recall a fight being stopped by a cut in the forehead.

I insist, now, 12 rounds, no BS, rungvisai wins to cuadras. No doubt.

 

probably he was overrated before, but now underrated. he might have had a guy whose style was just not good for him. The guy pretty much beat him easily. He could come back but the way he lost, looks like he is physically not really sharp anymore.. And remember, those lower weights guys wear out earlier.. That is why heavyweights fight so much older. It is a slower pace and what does that really take?

 

Could be. Rungvisai was doing some nasty bodywork and was seriously wearing Cuadras down. He hadn't won enough rounds to win without knockdowns or a KO though. But who knows? It's not like fights always repeat themselves and I'd be down to see a rematch.

 

By technical decision in a fight where Sur Rungvisai was coming on...

Edit: Sorry. I see that's already been discussed. But I do think that there's enough ambiguity associated with that fight that a rematch is certainly in order.

 

I went with 2

I admittedly don't watch anything below 126 for the most part and in reality the networks rarely feature those classes

I had read about Gonzalez for years and finally got a chance to see him fight when HBO picked him up. I am no expert or historian on the little guys but his accomplishments and wins are really solid

it's a shame that a guy can dominate so long and be written off and dismissed for 1 or 2 losses way after his best

 

Option 2 is the closest to the truth. But not far away from option 1.