VOTE! Who Did You Think Ggg Canelo vs GGG 2

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Who Did You Think Won Canelo GGG 2

  1. GGG

    76 vote(s)
    73.1%
  2. Canelo

    31 vote(s)
    29.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I felt Canelo edged it. Close but clear.

    Didnt really feel 'it could go either way'

    Have only watched once.

    Was surprised by the controversy.

    Need to rewatch it.
     
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  2. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Plenty of people who were picking and rooting for Canelo to win, thought Golovkin won.

    Danny Garcia comes to mind.

    Picked Canelo, rooting for Canelo... admitted G won.

    I had a bet on the fight with a Mexican coworker... I had G he had Canelo, he felt Canelo lost.

    If someone goes through and compares prefight media predictions, with their scorecards, plenty of pros who were picking Canelo or who were on the fence, felt he lost.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It has a lot to do with how you interpreted the bout. Watching it live, if you saw the early rounds as closer than they really were, then seeing GGG coming on stronger in the middle rounds as he did, then you could easily come to the conclusion that GGG won more rounds. However what really happened was that the early rounds were not that close, Canelo was winning them. (relatively close but not close enough for GGG to deserve to win any of them, until round 5 that is)

    Rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4 you'd have to really go out of your way to score any of those to GGG. Even the 5th, the first half of the round Canelo was clearly winning, but then GGG landed that shot with Canelo on the ropes to the side of the head, and even though Canelo shook it off it was a momentum changer of sorts, and from there GGG gained some much needed confidence and finished the 5th round strong and appeared to win that round as a result. The 6th, 7th 8th and 9th were all good rounds for GGG as well, and then Canelo sensing that GGG was starting to outvolume him, came on in the final 3 rounds and upped his output to even things up or arguably win it.

    So if you give GGG some of those early rounds, after not really expecting him being outboxed like that, then I could see why somebody scoring it live would have it for GGG. Seeing it close early on, then GGG taking over, then Canelo coming on late, is not unreasonable, as many big prize fights that are relatively close it's common for judges and fans alike to split early rounds to keep the fight close heading into the mid-way stage. That's what happened and that's why many thought GGG won.

    Reality was GGG should have been down 4 rounds to 1 after 5, so when GGG started asserting himself in rounds 6-9 it was only to even the score. But that's not how it was scored, fans and judges alike were finding reasons to give some of those early rounds to GGG, to keep it close heading into the mid-way stage. But reality is that Canelo was winning all those early rounds and was doing it impressively, by using footwork and skills that many didn't even realize he had. I mean Canelo was pretty much toying with GGG with how he went to the ropes in rounds 4 and 5. He was just showcasing his boxing skill and the difference in skill and technique was very apparent, and remember going into the bout many claimed that going to the ropes and staying there is a huge no-no vs GGG. And even when he was clipped in the 5th, it wasn't a damaging shot, but it was a shot that gave GGG momentum and caused pretty much everybody including me to score that round to GGG.

    But again, the key here is that the first fight wasn't an even fight heading into the middle rounds where GGG started to have more success. It was a fight that Canelo was making GGG look silly early on with an impressive display of boxing skill and technique then GGG finally getting into the fight late in the 5th round. It turned into a great fight but you can't have GGG winning unless you give GGG some of those early rounds, rounds that he did not deserve to win.
     
  4. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    TLDR!

    I actually didn’t read it because you’re the clown who tried to justify the 114-114 card during Canelo vs. Mayweather, therefore you’re not to be taken seriously.

    You’re a weird person and I don’t believe a thing you say.
     
  5. HerolGee

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    ok i understnad the intention of the poll now.

    i thought it was a draw, with a slight nod towards Canman for better aggression.
     
  6. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He is right pretty much any boxing poll on any forum looks more or less the same ,about 65-75% think GGG won and 90% of media had it for GGG, so he’s right that’s majority . Your analysis make sense , but I think you are just biased and prob more biased than majority of boxing fans.
    Imo second fight was closer, so draw would have been acceptable . How do you explain mexican media scoring it for GGG?
     
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Actually no , 90% of media either had it a draw or a GGG win. There was loads of draw results which reflected the fact it was a close fight.

    If you have a very close fight between a guy you like and a guy you don't don't like , who do think will get the nod? GGG got the popularity vote , just like Pacman did when 90% of the media had him beating Jeff Horns.
     
  8. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t care to look for it now but I think in the first fight you could count on two hands the number of people who scored it for Canelo. Most of of them being Oscar, Hopkins, few other Mexicans and Canelo’s mom.

    :lol:
     
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  9. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because Canelo is some unknown with no media presence like Horn was.
     
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  10. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes 90% of media either GGG win , or a draw.
     
  11. shadow111

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    Well that's a lie, but oddly enough I get that a lot. There's a difference between pointing out the fight was close to having it a draw or trying to justify it being a draw.
     
  12. shadow111

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    It's not a matter of being an unknown, it's a matter of expectations and how the fight was presented to the public (Teddy Atlas / Harold Lederman). It's simllar to how everyone was screaming robbery after Pacquiao Bradley 1.
     
  13. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There was nothing close about Canelo vs Mayweather.

    Weirdo. :lol:
     
  14. shadow111

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    It definetly was. Just watching that DAZN preview of Canelo vs Jacobs they had a bunch of clips of Canelo Mayweather. Like that right hand he landed with Mayweather with Floyd on the ropes. Mayweather eeked that fight out, barely. Canelo put in a good performance. It wasn't enough to get the win, or even to justify a draw, but it was very close. Many posters on here are still in denial about what happened that night.
     
  15. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only people in denial are your parents, about your existence.