Walcott-Marciano II

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by yancey, Apr 23, 2008.


  1. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

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    Just saw this fight for the first time.

    What the hell was this all about? :huh

    Please help me, I'm dumb and need your help in figuring it out. :hey
     
  2. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not clear as to the meaning of your question but, if you're asking why the fight was made, it was (at least) because Walcott had made a stiff defense of the title in loosing to Marciano, and people were eager to see them go at it again.

    Does anyone know if there was a rematch clause in case Walcott lost the first fight.

    If you mean Walcott not rising by ten, he said that he blacked out a few seconds and lost track of the count.
     
  3. Sonny's jab

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    He got knocked down and didn't get up in time, lost by KO.

    That's all there is to it.
     
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Their was a rematch clause before the first fight even happened should marciano win............walcott got hit with a right hand and couldnt beat the count. simple as that
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    When Walcott went in with Rocky the first time he was old. Put an old fighter in with a fighter like that and he doesn't come out the same. That is my opinion. Rocky also absolutley demolished him in the KO and things like that can leave fighters gunshy not to mention ringworn.

    But what Sonny and Suzie have said is accurate too.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Walcott fought his heart out the 1st fight and was brutally KO"D in the 13th rd...these are hard fights to come back from...I thought Taylor would have the same problem vs Pavlik but he scored a victory not getting stopped again
     
  7. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    I personally think Walcott could have gotten back up ahead of the count if he wanted to. Only problem is he knew what he was gonna get if he got back up. Can any person really blame Walcott for not wanting more? I don't think so.
     
  8. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

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    Compare that to Frazier getting brutalized in Jamaica and refusing to stay down.

    There was a real warrior.
     
  9. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats not the reason for the rematch, Even if on Sept 23, 1952, Marciano came out and ko Walcott with the first punch of the fight, there STILL would have been a rematch. Before Marciano Walcott fight could go on, Marciano and crew had to agree, to a rematch clause, with the same pay for Walcott(Larget purse) in the rematch.
    So Marciano wins the title, rematch but because of the early agreement, Marciano does not get the championship share of the money.
     
  10. RoccoMarciano

    RoccoMarciano Blockbuster Full Member

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    A Walcott wasn't:lol:

    Having a few neurons has never meant a person isn't a warrior. Walcottt nearly got his head knocked of by Marciano the first time - he looked as if he'd been killed. Any person not wanting to go through that a second time is quite understandable.
     
  11. markedwardscott

    markedwardscott Active Member Full Member

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    I think he got caught while he was still cold, and maybe wasn't too enthusiastic about going through another war.
     
  12. Seasoned Veteran

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    Nick Tosche's book on Sonny Liston hinted that this fight was a fix. Moore needed the money so took the dive.
     
  13. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ........I've always thought that fight was fishy. When have you guy EVER seen a guy fall like that, especially after being knocked down by a punch from that angle? And the way he fell was right out of vaudeville. There was something funny about that one, at least as odious as the second Ali-Liston fight. Why no one talks about this one I'll never know.
     
  14. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The reason for Marciano compare to Ali, is because Marciano hit so dang hard, that even the air of his miss punchings would knock people out. One of the rare fighters to have this skill.
     
  15. Manassa

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    Mis-timed the count.