Wally Downes Jr`s top 5 Brit displays

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Downe`s is a sports journalist for The sun newspaper and has written an article about Fury stating his win over Wlad will rate higher than a potential win over Wilder, Downe`s compared Fury v Wlad to four other great Brit wins:

    Fury v Klitchko
    Calzaghe v Lacy
    Honeyghan v Curry
    Lewis draw v Holyfield
    Hatton v Castillo

    I personally feel Randy Turpin`s win over Ray Robinson belongs on this list ahead of one of these bouts, is this a credible list?
     
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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not a bad list to be honest. Not sure why it's the draw with Lewis v Holyfield in there, is that because Lennox actually performed better according to most in the first fight rather than the actual win he got over him?
     
  3. mark ant

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    Yes, Downes said it was actually Lewis`s most dominant performance v a legend.
     
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  4. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Turpin over Robinson surpasses all of those.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    Berg vs Canzoneri 1 is easily top 3. No question IMO. Berg also has wins over Kid Chocolate and Mushy Callahan.

    That is a terrible list.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    "At MSG last night before more than 18,000 fans Jack (Kid) Berg disregarded a normally heart-breaking 1st round in which he almost collapsed and came back to outslug Tony Canzoneri, former featherweight champion. Canzoneri was a heavy favourite and the judgement of the so-called wise money looked very right in the opening canto when Tony rocked the English boxer with a series of rights and lefts to the jaw. After that Berg fought a steady, persistent fight, carrying the battle to the Italian and beating him decisively. His attack was so relentless and so sure that only in the 7th round did Canzoneri show anything." -International News Service
     
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  7. Momus

    Momus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is it a top five list of fights he has seen? Otherwise, there's no sane argument for not having Turpin-Robinson on top of the list.

    Agree with Berg-Canzoneri being up there as well. If pound for pound was a thing at that time, Canz would have been at or near the top, and Berg by reports gave him a beating.
     
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    Driscoll-Attell and Lewis-Britton (take your pick) should be up there as well.
     
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  9. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If that’s the criteria for inclusion on the list, I must have missed it when Lacy, Curry and Castillo became legends.
     
  10. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it is obvious that Wally Downes (wasn’t he a soccer player?) has no interest in watching boxers that fought in fights that were filmed in black+white.
     
  11. LoadedGlove

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    Stracey v Napoles was a huge upset at the time.
     
  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    But even then his list is bad.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True, though at that time Curry was considered a legend in the making by British fight pundits.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Napoles was past his best.
     
  15. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s true, in fact he was actually shot.
    Going into the fight though Napoles was the favourite, people just didn’t realise how far he was gone.
     
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