Wandy is a out of shape

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by iksrtfo, Feb 13, 2008.


  1. iksrtfo

    iksrtfo Jedi Knight of Poon Full Member

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    In the newest ringside/combat sports cataloge they have a pic of Wandy and he looks flabby as hell. Real out of shape. I noticed the same thing a few years ago when the had Ken Shamrock's pic in it. He was really flabby.
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    As much as i hate to say it i wouldnt be surprised if he was on gear whilst in PRIDE. I hate labelling guys as hormone abusers but when i saw him vs Liddell he didnt have the hardness and vascularity that he possessed in PRIDE. He was also a relatively small light heavy and blew himself up somewhat to fight at heavy. Thats not an easy thing to do at all when you need to maintain your conditioning at the same time as a fighter.

    As for Ken you can bet your life he was on gear. This is him in his hey day:
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    Bear in mind he spent quite some time in the WWF and to be in that organisation hormone abuse is almost a prerequiste as Vince is in love with muscle bound wrestlers.

    This is him later:
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    The physical diffrences are quite drastic around his delts bi`s abs and traps. As you can see his chest as atrophyied quite a bit and his pecs are very saggy. His still quite vascualr but his just fought so that figures. But he was much softer in his later years. I believe when he fought in the early UFC`s he was only around 210lbs and peaked in the WWF at around the 230 mark. Thus he was a relatively small heavyweight. Too further add. Not an ounce of that muscle in his prime was functional. I guess it was more for appearance intimidation along the percieved idea that bigger muscles mean better performance.
     
  3. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ken is like 200y.o of course he's gona be flabby after steroids.

    Did you guys see latest Shogun interview? Haha he's flabby as hell as well.
     
  4. Hitman_Hatton

    Hitman_Hatton Member Full Member

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    vs liddell? you mean Ortiz?
     
  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Rampage? Nogueira? Crocop looks exactly the same, I don't see what you see.
     
  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    No i mean Liddell. As in when Silva fought Liddell.
     
  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Yeah them hormones suuuuuuuuuuure make you ferocious:roll:
     
  8. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Well it does boost testosterone, and testosterone is what effectively makes us men right? Testosterone is what makes us angry and agressiveness right?
    Having an excess of testosterone will multiply that above the norm, won't it? :think
     
  9. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    It also aromatizes into Estrogen in record time unless some sort of precursor is taken to balance the bodys normal levels of male and female hormones. So a very strong argument can be made against that point. It all depends on the knowledge of the person taking the drugs and the advice they`ve been given.

    But by the same token yes increased Test will make you more aggresive. BUT again it depends on the inviduals metabolism and receptance to the hormone. Not everyone acts by a default more aggresively or "manly" when on hormones.It can dampen your sex drive immensely contrary to the popular belief that it increases it.As there are major diffrences between artitifical hormones and that which the body produces normally.
     
  10. Tko4

    Tko4 Left high kick Full Member

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    To be fair, he was quite a bit older in that second pic, and muscle atrophies with age. That's not to dispute whether he was on juice or not, though. He cleary was on roids in his WWE days...and a lot of it. But it's not like those secondpics were two weeks after coming off the juice. They were a lack of steroids + many years passing. That combination does terrible things to big, shiney Vinnie Mac muscles.
     
  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Agreed. That is also a fair enough point.
     
  12. cola

    cola Guest

    steroids or not... i miss pride.