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..............Gotta be honest John; no.


In the end, this wouldn't differ much from Marciano-Ali (computer match). You might as well make a video game of it.

Besides the fact that only boxing nerds would want to see any of this (and there ain't many of us), there is of course the issue that it would all be fake. That's the symbolic beauty of the game; absolutely anything is possible in the hearts of men once the bell rings.

Something like this sanitizes and detracts from that notion.

 

I pay, as long as Marciano goes though the Sim unbeating and untied with Wins over Dempsey, Ali, Louis, Fraizer, Liston, Foreman and others.

There was a 50 50 arugment on the Ali Marciano thing back in the 60's. And even the radio tourment had some calls people didnt agree with(Baer Johnson)

As humans, we can guess what happens, and the computer is just other option. A Higher option in regards to numbers and all, but boxing is not about numbers. Anything short of a time machine, and I am in. You see Bill and Ted's 2 movies??
US, there is John L Sullivan coming out of a bar, lets grab him.

 

I would probably pay $20 or so to go see it, but I don't see how anyone could expect to net a profit if this hypothetical undertaking were to ever take place. If some of the members of this Classic Boxing Forum wouldn't go see it, imagine trying to market it to the public?

 

Same here. I wouldn't pay to watch computer graphics fictional boxing.

 

Good Luck with this John ,I think it might be intruiging,I don't know how commercial it would be ,but I would like to see the results ,as long as they are realistic scenarios.Unfortunately,living in the UK I probably won't get the chance ,but ATB.Dempsey v Louis and Marciano.Greb V Robinson,Williams v Duran,Leonard v Gans,a Boxing fans wet dream!

 

Going back to when Palomino and Cuevas were the welterweight champions, predictions of particular anticipated dream matchups went something like this:

If Benitez tries fighting Duran and Palomino off the ropes, with his suspect chin and their lethal body attacks, he'll get himself killed.
Hearns will beat Leonard with his power, while Sugar Ray will win if he outboxes Tommy.

Hearns will blast Benitez out of the water, while Wilfredo's best chance is to outbox Tommy (who foolishly fancies himself as a master boxer).

If Duran fights Cuevas as he fought Leonard in Montreal, Pipino will knock him out.

Duran has the perfect style for knocking Hearns out, by slipping to the inside and pounding Tommy's skinny frame.

There's no way a rusty Leonard can possibly hope to compete with ATG and P4P number one in the world southpaw Hagler. And Duran's simply too small to have any success with Hagler.

Since Duran showed how well he could perform against Hagler, Hearns had better be prepared for a long night dealing with Roberto.


Frankly, I'm not convinced the technology has advanced to the point where a non-fan could not discern the difference between authentic and fabricated footage, and I believe that's the quality of imagery which would need to be necessary for such a concept to be viable.

Secondly, the difference between the predicted and actual outcomes of the various matchups just described provide a double edged sword. On one hand, considerable artistic license can be exercised as to how many given pairings might unfold, offering the opportunity to create some surprising and controversial conclusions. On the other, there truly is no way to guess what the genuine result of certain contests would likely be. (Robinson KO 5 Fullmer flies completely in the face of the rest of Gene's career. If that second fight had never taken place, nobody would suggest that Ray could have ever stopped him before the final bell.)

Anyhow, just some random thoughts as I wake up this morning.

 

I'm musing about this over coffee.

We are a particular crowd -with our very own particulars- that at times get verbally violent. If this forum took place in a ballroom somewhere and we were all together, I'm convinced that there'd be bloodshed. We'd have to rename the forum "DWB" -"Deadwood Boxing"....

Ex/ If Duran loses to any LW, I'll throw my shoe at the movie screen and start fights. If Robinson loses at WW, well, God bless who wrote that script. If Hagler gets knocked down or stopped, I'll boycott it. And I don't think I'll be alone. Some things are sacred.

BUT -others have different opinions! (read: They have the right to be wrong!!)

Remember that old Japanese flick "King Kong vs. Godzilla"? Well, here in the U.S, King Kong won. In Japan, their guy won. Perhaps there is some way to have two versions...?

 

Well if we DID take the monsters out of there respect movies, I have to give it to Godzilla, the nuke fire is more than anything King Kong dealt with.
In the movie, they gave King Kong powers that he didnt have in ANY of the films, IE can take power line shots, can "Hulk" up with Godzilla blows his nukes at King Kong.
I was like WOW. that is King Kong??? How on Earth did that fall killed King Kong, if he can take point blank nukes?

 

I admit it would make money. A lot of things do. I personally didn't like the Woroner series back in the 60's except for the interviews with the old time champions and their opinions.