Ward alredy in "duck Bute" mode

They don't have spell check where you're at ? atsch

 

atsch :rofl :rofl

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=17659&more=1

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WAS BUTE KNOCKED OUT?

The only way Andrade could have won by knockout in the final round, is if Bute had not beaten the count. According to Rules No.1 and No. 3, Bute would have been considered knocked out if any part of his body except his feet were on the floor, or if he was hanging helplessly over the ropes at the end of the ten (10) count. Now, eight (8) seconds after the knockdown, no parts of Bute's body except his feet were on the floor and he was not hanging helplessly over the ropes either. He remained in this situation for the rest of the evening. In other words, Bute was not knocked out. He was knocked down, got back up and would have beaten the eight (8) count, had that been completed, since he was up within eight (8) seconds. For Bute to be knocked out, events should have unfolded like this:

Bute goes down with two seconds to go. The referee sends Andrade to the neutral corner and picks up the count from the knock-down timekeeper. He keeps counting and when he reaches eight (8), at least one part of Bute's body except his feet was on the ground or he was hanging helplessly over the ropes. The referee counts nine and Bute is in the same situation, more or less. As he counts ten, at least one part of Bute's body except his feet was on the ground or he was hanging helplessly over the ropes. The referee waves his hands to signal a knockout. Andrade wins by KO 12.

This is of course, not what happened. Bute was up within eight seconds of the knockdown. It would have been impossible for the referee, any referee, to have counted him out. So, Andrade could not have won a KO12.

WAS BUTE THEN TECHNICALLY KNOCKED OUT?

It has also been argued that although Bute wasn't knocked out, he was in fact technically knocked out because he wasn't in a position to continue, after he beat the clock. According to the rules, though, he needn't have been in a position to continue, because there was nothing left to continue; the fight had been over the second he beat the count. Since there was no fight for Bute to continue, after the end of the fight, he needn't have been in a position to continue; he just needed to be up, early enough to beat the count, as defined by Rule No.1 (that no part of his body should be on the floor and that he shouldn't hang helplessly over the ropes). Bute was up and he beat the count because he was up within eight seconds of getting knocked down. There was no time to count him up; he beat the count!

The only way Andrade could have won a TKO 12 is if Bute had been knocked down earlier in the round, beat the count, was asked to continue and declined, or, tried to continue and was unable to do so, for example because he was staggering or losing his balance, with seconds still left of the final three minute round on the clock. This would have forced the referee to wave the fight off, deeming Bute technically knocked out, before the three minutes had elapsed. Since Bute went down with two seconds left on the clock, there was no time left for him to get up, get an eight count, and have the fight restarted for him then to suddenly become unable to continue, allowing the referee to deem him technically knocked out, before the three minutes of the final round had elapsed. In other words, Andrade could not have won by technical knockout either, whether Bute was in a position to continue after the mandatory eight (8) count or not. It is immaterial whether Bute was in a position to continue after he beat the count, because the second he beat the count, the fight was over. After the fight is over, whether you are able to fight on or not is immaterial to the question of whether you were up on your feet at the end of the fight, with your hands clear of the floor.

It has also been argued that the referee should have asked Bute to take a step towards him to prove he was in a position to continue, after he beat the count, at the end of the eight (8) count. Again, according to the rules, the referee needn't have done that because the fight was over. The referee didn't know that the fight was over, because the timekeeper failed to notify him by ringing the bell. In these circumstances, the referee might have asked Bute to take a step towards him to prove he was able to continue, but he wasn't obliged to do so according to Rule No. 5. According to Rule No.5, the referee just had to be satisfied himself that Bute was ready to continue. Having satisfied himself that Bute was ready to continue by looking into his eyes, the referee asked him to raise his gloves to signal that he was willing to continue, and Bute did so. That gave the referee the green light he needed to restart the fight.

All of this, though, is, of course, immaterial because the fight was long over. The fight ended the very moment Bute was raised and his hands clear of the floor, eight seconds after the knockdown.

 

bute was exposed in the 12th round by andrade, and saved by the referee. nevertheless, he came back and stopped andrade in the rematch...ward is better than bute. he needs to prove it by fighting and beating him, regardless of the venue

 

Bute said he'd go to Oakland to do it. That's something.. right? Considering the 120-108 card in the Bika fight, maybe...

Ward: "You know what?? Bute needs to be fighting A level fighters."

 

Calzaghe: "Kessler, you need to fight guys like Lacy and Bika before you get a shot at my 2 belts"

 

Wards a good champ I think he wants to fight the best there's only him a Bute left at super middleweight for supremacy so I think or at least hope the fight will happen we all want to see it. Im going with Bute if it ever happens( it should).

 

Oh so Ward is a *** and a ***** huh? I guess it just takes a *** and a ***** to whup Froch into begging help from the ref and his gold diggin girlfriend in the stands. "Help me I'm getting whupped by a ***** ***"

****, you ain't man enough to give credit where credits due little boy :yep

 

First, you site an esb article as your proof. :rofl

Second, you must think Meldrick Taylor won against JCC.

Bute loses by knock out, anywhere else on the globe in that first Andrade fight.

He's a protected, hometown, hypejob. There are other boxers out there, and once Ward makes Bute look like the over-hyped hometown boy he is, I want you to go and find another boxer to stalk.

 

You still haven't proven wrong the facts stated in the ESB article, kid. The outcome was legit.

Bute loses by TKO in the last minute of R12 if a more stringent ref is in there, granted. But not on the outcome, not no way.

"Over-hyped hometown boy". You want me to go... and... what?!?? :rofl

 

ts we called it didn't we? like jim lampley said about foreman koing moore, "it happened.":good

 

Cool, then Boone exposed Ward and if rematches don't matter Duran exposed SRL, Rahman exposed Lennox, Basilio exposed SRR. SRL, SRR, Lennox are all ****ing garbage using your logic.

 

Any ref that wasn't paid off would have counted out Bute. Sorry that's so hard for you to deal with. The obvious regional bias you show towards Bute is sickening.

 

Yeah ok Einstein. Bute went down with less than 10 seconds on the clock. Read the IBF rules on getting up to beat the count, Bute wasn't even saved by the bell.

No question on the outcome. But you can't seem to grasp the concept, wouldn't hurt to give the article a read. :good

 

Well the ref was certainly awful and ruined the fight Bute was actually up at the count of 8 though dead tired and so exhausted a 5 year old could of probably pushed him over but he did actually make the non bull**** count.

 

The concept is clear as day, you're a Bute-licker.