Ward and Dirrell in the Super Six

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  1. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Yeah there you go, cement your place in history as the biggest jackass ever to exist.
     
  2. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    If Jermain Taylor was fast, Kelly Pavlik would not have beat him, once.
     
  3. Hermit

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    Actually, there aren't many people on the planet smarter than him. Ask Pipe about him. But he was 4 or 5 at the time.
     
  4. 1lehudson

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    The Andre's combined have fewer pro fights then Kessler and only a handful more then Taylor and AA. Thing about the two would be if they had another 5 and 7 fights to get to the 25 fight range were Froch is. At that point I highly doubt that anyone would pick anyone not named Andre. I really think that is the reason that the two were offered a shot at this thing. Get'm on the upside instead of once they have reached the top. I dont think that either guy has been protected, in fact I dont see a huge difference in the level of comp between what they have faced and what the rest of the guys, excluding Taylor, has faced. For me the doubt cames soley based on lack of fights, and more importantly BIG fights. Talent wise Dirrell and Ward are as good if not better then all the other fighters and I lean hard right towards better. but talent alone dont win fights.

    I still think it would have been a much more interesting thing if you have not had Dirrell, Ward and Taylor and instead added Pavlik, Dawson and Bute. Although I heard that Dawson's name came up and "SOME" of the fighters would not have been interested. Taylor I truely dont understand why he is there. I could see him beatting AA but not many after that.
     
  5. SkillsSoSmooth

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    Well whatever you do don't share your boxing knowledge with him as he'll only be as clueless as you about the game!! :patsch, i mean do you honestly believe that Taylor and Dirrell's speed can be compared? it's like comparing Marquez to Mayweather it simply doesn't make sense, Dirrell is the faster man which is why i said FROCH HASN'T FACED ANYONE WITH DIRRELL'S SPEED BEFORE!!, jesus people used to be able to fathom simple sentences when this forum first started!! :roll: .
     
  6. SkillsSoSmooth

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    Don't bother trying to explain, apparently "Taylor's hands are quicker than Flash Gordon" you know!! :lol: , forget the fact that he couldn't even catch the likes of Spinks and Ouma with them, Dirrell's probably the fastest in the whole division and anyone with any knowledge of the game would know that.
     
  7. Hermit

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    OK. What is the average time it takes for each to land a punch once it starts? It was you that said MUCH FASTER. Give some facts to back this up, not your opinion then.
     
  8. David Fanning

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    Dawson cannot make 168, Pavlik would rather stay at 160 and fight welterweights, Bute is Canadian.
     
  9. David Fanning

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    Occasionally...the people here are in need of an explanation of what handspeed is. So, every once in a while, I have to break it down. Apparently I am overdue, so here goes.

    Folks, to determine who has the faster handspeed between two fighters....watch one fight of one, then watch another fight of the other. Take notice of how long each fighters' hands take to get from their starting point to their finishing point. The fighter who's hands take LESS (not more) time to reach their destination point has the FASTER (not slower) handspeed. I know for some it is difficult at first, but after your first couple of hours of actually paying attention to boxing, it will become easier. Hermit, I don't think you have a TV, so you are excusable.
     
  10. Jeff M

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    Actually he can. I know what he walks around at, and he personally told me such. If there is nothing after the Johnson fight @ 175, he will make 168.

    :rasta
     
  11. Jeff M

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    Another foolsih statement. How many times will you own yourself in this thread?:lol:
     
  12. SkillsSoSmooth

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    I'm not trying to get scientific on a damn boxing forum!! :lol: , it's just common sense really, Taylor is at the latter end of his career now, he's been in many wars and the only logical assumption would be that he's slowed down over the years, then you compare him to 26 year old Dirrell who's coming into his peak, his body hasn't taken any punishment and his hands are as sharp as ever, i mean come on who do you think is gonna be the faster man? even without those circumstances Dirrell's handspeed is faster than Jermain's ever was imo and i'm someone who was a fan of his when he first started out, he had a killer jab and was exciting but Andre is a totally different animal imo, his speed is shocking at that weight.
     
  13. David Fanning

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    So why hasn't he made 168 in almost 4 years? He'd rather fight in the weakest weight class boxing has to offer?
     
  14. David Fanning

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    If the jackass didn't have me on ignore, his ignorant jackass would have noticed that it was just mapped out for him. He chooses to be ignorant. Maybe you could recommend a television. He's obviously never seen Dirrell fight. Dirrell's handspeed is sickening.
     
  15. gigogreco

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    reading through all these pages, enhances the excitement, that this tournament is bringing. The fighters abilities are being investigated thoroughly, we all know what theyu bring, but nevertheless there is a huge difference of opinion on the outcome and so on.

    Eventhough you root for your fighter, no one is certain of succes, as everyone brings something to the table and has the chance to win.

    2 weeks..:deal