Ward is lucky to fight 12 rds and not 15.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by travolt, Dec 19, 2011.


  1. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    People need to stop comparing Ward with Hopkins.
    He's not an adaptative fighter and he can't keep his energy throughout the fight like Bernard.

    He's a frontrunner that uses his athletic talents to build a points lead, then beats the clock in the remaining rds because his well has run dry and he can't stand and trade.

    If 15 rounders were still around, Ward probably wouldn't be able to beat guys like Kessler and Froch because eventually he would have to stand his ground and engage, and we all know he doesn't have the chin.
     
  2. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    so are most fighters nowadays
     
  3. Thomas!!

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    I was actually going to make a point on this. It's certainly lucky for a fighter like Ward that today's fights are 12 and not 15 rounds. Carl although losing by a wide margin, going into the last 2 rounds Ward was tiring and Carl was coming on more strongly. 15 round fights would certainly favour a fighter like Carl who hasn't got the best skill set but can dig deep in the closing stages and a 3 extra rounds could of seen Carl possibly stopping ward as the fight winds down into a war of attrition.
     
  4. Thomas!!

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    And oddly enough, had Carl won those extra 3 rounds, he'd of won the fight.
     
  5. Orbete

    Orbete Active Member Full Member

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    I can't believe this thread.
    If the fight would have been 15 rounds don't you think Ward would have had a different plan and still won?
    I say that if the fight would have had only 3 rounds than we would have seen a very different Froch and Ward. But the winner would have probably been the same.
     
  6. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but a 15 rounder lessens the intensity of the fight during the first 12 if it was around nowadays. its all well and good saying 'if' the fight had gone 15, but both men knew how many rounds there were and froch was soundly beaten
     
  7. Thomas!!

    Thomas!! Guest

    Yes I know Froch was soundly beaten like I said. We're speaking hypotheticals here. no need to chime in
     
  8. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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  9. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its a boxing board. chiming in is what i'm here for :good
     
  10. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    Shut up you idiot.

    Ward only really tired in the last 2 rounds. Froch wasn't that tired 'cause he did **** all in the first 3/4/5 rounds of the fight. He said as much himself afterwards. If you can't do what you need to do to win in 12 rounds, then too bad. You want fights to be decided on who tires first and not on boxing skill? **** off.

    15 rounds? Completely irrelevant. :patsch
     
  11. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    The fact is time and time again we have seen Ward lose later rds vs Froch and Kessler; this is exactly opposite Hopkins, who got stronger as the rds passed.

    Hearns would have beaten Ray if their first fight was a 12 rder, but he just couldn't maintain his energy and i suspect Ward would fare even worse than him seeing how uncomfortable he was in the last 2 rds.
     
  12. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Erm, right . . . . .

    You do realise that Ward won more or less every round in that fight, yeah?

    You do realise that Ward was fighting with this hand from round 6 onwards? Might explain why his activity dropped

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  13. Thomas!!

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    Some people don't like the thought of Ward possibly even Hypthetically losing lol. I'm giving Ward full credit for destroying Froch here, yet slowly people are chiming in like I am saying if that if the fight was 15 rounds Froch would win.

    All Im saying here is that I think a 15 round fight would favour a fighter like Froch more than it would Ward and he would have a higher chance of winning the fight and stopping Ward late, based how strong Froch was coming on in the later stages and how Ward was starting to fade, hold and spoil.

    If the fight had gone 3 extra rounds proceeding exactly the same fight we just saw, and Carl won all 3 on the judges cards, he would of won the fight thats just a simple fact. But fights aren't 15 rounds anymore they're 12 and ward won 10-2 in my book.
     
  14. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you cant argue with that sort of 'what if', it doesnt work.

    thats like saying usain bolt is a great runner, but hes lucky that he wasnt running the 800 because he wouldve got beat...
     
  15. Thomas!!

    Thomas!! Guest

    King Kong vs Godzilla is completely irrelevant because it wouldn;t happen but people will still debate it because they can and want to, if you don't want to be involved don't chime in like some Ward of Boxing Forums, holding and spoiling the debate.