Ward is very good but....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Laudrup, Nov 23, 2009.


  1. mdr40z

    mdr40z Member Full Member

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    I think Ward thought K did this intentional, watch closely at the end of R3, then I think W thought 'if thats the way he's going to fight....' just saying.
    Noone can dispute the fact that W dominated that fight butts or not, c'mon now.
     
  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I fully expect MK to dismantle Froch. I think he is more the style of fighter that MK is used to facing. I don't think he was all that protected.....alot of fighters are.....I just think he hasn't fought guys with the style and talent that Ward has. It was a style nightmare for MK. He needs to be able to make adjustments in the ring....the same criticisms he heard after the Calslappy fight. No shame in losing to Andre Ward though. He is a serious up and comer in the division. I think MK will be back on top.
     
  3. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that Kessler should not have taken a fight in the challenger's back yard. Ward fought well but dirty. Those headbutt were too many to be considered unitentional. Those played their role in the fight.
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I doubt they were intentional. Whenever Ward finished low, he new he was exposed. He would seek to tie MK up by clinching. MK never backed off. Again, not MK's fault by any stretch, but it's boxing. To say that it was intentional is just drawing conclusions based on the end result. Yes, he was moving forward and upward, but he had been doing it the whole fight. You could say it was careless, but I don't see why it would be intentional. Ward was dominating the fight. Why jeopardize that?
     
  5. Eastcoast

    Eastcoast Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That cutt landed below Kessler's eye, while on Ward it was near the top of his head. If it was intentional at all, that would make it Ward's fault. Nobody outside of John Duddy leads with their face. I don't know if any of them were intentional -(though the slow replay of the lunge in the 9th looks it), I think that it's Ward's clinch defense that causes it.

    I mentioned it before, Kessler looked psyched out. Paralyzed and panicked. He mentally was unprepared for this kind of Ward.
    But if you take away the clinches (which lead to the butts), and it's a totally different fight in a rematch.
     
  6. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Possibly, but MK needs to have answer for Ward's speed, mobility and variety. He had none in the 1st fight. I'd love to see a rematch. The clinching he could stop....and therefore the head butts. But he is very robotic in style and once he started throw wild punches with almost no chance of landing, I knew he was beaten. He was psyched out, as you said, and it showed. But it seemed like he never tried to make an adjustment.
     
  7. Spunik

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    Be interesting to see if Ward can outmuscle A.A. in the clinch Ward is a much bigger dude but A.A. has some ****** strength..
     
  8. Jepster

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    Abraham is scary. The way he just suddenly explodes it's extraordinary. I don't care much for his style though.
     
  9. mdr40z

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    Going to be an awesome match, maybe AA pulls it out if he can adapt. Kessler did nothing to change his losing strategy in the Ward fight, AA is a far better fighter than Kessler IMO and has insane inside ability.
     
  10. HolgerD

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    Just talked to two people who were ringside and very close to the action. They said the headbuttings were clearly intentional. For what it is worth it supports Kessler's claims. But again, if it didn't impair Kessler's vision it doesn't mean much more than Kessler must have felt discouraged not getting any fair treatment from the ref.
     
  11. Spunik

    Spunik Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think we'll see a different look from Ward when he fights AA....but AA first got Dirrell which will be interesting.....I don't think Dirrell will be hanging out too much in AA's wheelhouse....he'll be sticking and moving a lot....
     
  12. Jepster

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    I think this one will be difficult for Dirrel. Abraham has got good timing with those punches.

    Lol at AA's wheelhouse :lol:
     
  13. mdr40z

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    omg he looked scared to death against Froch, I think AA v Dirrell looks a lot like Hagler/Hearns lol, boom-boom out go t'lights
     
  14. FrochPascal

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    Unless Abraham shows something much different he could be in trouble vs Dirrel. Particularly if Dirrel has the rounds in the bank early which is what seems that could happen vs Abraham.

    We then know what his legs can do..
     
  15. Jepster

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    Well we just have to wait and see what happens. I think that Abraham is a sneaky sob and that he will have something in store for Dirrel.