Ward: It's easy for Calzaghe to say he can beat me from the comfort of his couch!

If he comes back for ward he has to fight froch as well to settle matters both need to happen at LHW cause he aint making SMW

 

Really?

Is that why Bernard Hopkins, Lennox Lewis, Glen Johnson, Vernon Forrest, Paulie Mallignaggi, Winky Wright, and journalists Dan Rafael, Gordon Marino, Tim Smith, Franklin McNeil and Bobby Cassidy all said Jones would beat Calzaghe?

And is that why the people predicting the result of Calzaghe/Hopkins on this website: http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content2464.html were split 10 in favor of a Calzaghe win and 9 in favor of Hopkins?

 

That's bull****. Ward does not go out of his way to fight anyone anywhere.

Of his last 10 fights, 9 have been in his home state, and 4 of them have been in his backyard in Oakland. In his 26 fights so far he has only fought outside California 7 times. That's hardly going "out of his way to fight anywhere."

He spent months on end building up Bute and saying how the winner of the Super Six had to fight him to prove who was the best then the moment he was in with a shot of winning he suddenly changed his tune. He blew Bute off with the comment that he hadn't earnt the shot and then came up with some bull**** excuses as to why he hadn't signed to fight him, one of which was that Bute wanted a rematch option. And then there's Dawson who Ward dragged down to his weight to fight him at Ward's choice of venue, giving up litterally nothing to make the fight. Again, that's clear proof against the idea of him going "out of his way to fight anyone".

 

well I agree with calzaghe. He's a better fighter then ward, and more accomplished.

 

Yeah, he deserves credit for getting back up, but that was a mistimed shot by Roy.

 

You always go too far.

How can Joe have had better wins even in the same timeline?

Andre is currently 29 years old.

Compare his resume and his wins, to Joe's resume up until the age of 29.

That was up to the Will McIntyre fight.

At that point, Joe hadn't beaten Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy, Kessler etc.

Their resumes from turning pro, up until the age of 29, aren't even close.

 

He's exaggerated, but there was still a lot of people who thought Joe would win. Roy hadn't won at elite level for 5 years.

I also believe that the people who picked Roy, were being nostalgic and they'd only seen Joe fight a handful of times.

 

Or you can flip the coin and say that Jones jr and hopkins only fought Calzaghe late on because they had nothing to lose in doing so

 

I recall chatting on the SS site so so many were saying Jones would outskill Calzaghe

 

Joe wasn't on Roy's radar back in the day. They fought in different divisions, and Joe wasn't a big name outside of Europe.

Roy had no reason to go looking for Joe.

 

Yeah, I don't doubt it for a second.

But Joe was an elite fighter, and Roy hadn't won at elite level for 5 years. Johnson had destroyed him years before, and Roy hardly looked great in beating Ajamu, Hanshaw and Tito (who couldn't even make the 170 catchweight)

I don't see how anyone could have been surprised by the outcome.

My only guess is, that they didn't respect Joe's abilities, because they hadn't seen much of him.

 

Ward is the most protected fighter I've ever seen. Guy doesn't fight anywhere besides Oakland. Doesn't even leave the state. Calzaghe would abuse him worse than he did Hopkins. Ward has not a single advantage on Joe. The hand speed and foot speed would make for a 7th round TKO.

 

Andre goes out of his way to fight anyone/anywhere. Joe was too scared to lose his '0'.[/QUOTE]


LOL Sure anywhere as long as its him home town Ward duck Bute :rofl

 

dude i know, im just flipping the coin to someone who tries to discredit just to show how easy it is to do.

To me Calzaghe and Roy not fighting is more down to Tv contractual demands. Calzaghe was unknown back then yes to the casuals but not to those with boxing brains as Hopkins trainer back then said " Calzaghe is a tall order"

 

Plenty did not respect his abilities as well as many top brains in boxing. Calzaghe had been more noticed by the time he fought jones by the maintream, i think plenty were pulled along by the hype after jones bashed lacy and sheika something calzaghe had done long before.

At the end of the day this swtuff about Calzaghe not wanting top guys is crap, as you pointed out the hopkins fight didnt happen due to financial reasons , thats not calzaghes fault.
If calzaghe didnt want to the guys he would not have fought two undefeated Champs in Lacy and Kessler (who was in his prime) It dont matter if Calzaghe made Lacy look like novice which nobody had done until then, the point is lacy was the betting favourite in both sides of the pond and that calzaghe fought him which makes the point of calzaghe not fighting the best moot as at the times all rated lacy as the best. ( hindsight is a critics best friend)