ward/kova and brook/ggg ...serious question

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    A few serious questions.

    Does it ever bother you that you hate someone who you don't personally know, so badly that you're spending large chunks of your life on a website and made it your life's mission to defame him? What good is this doing? What do you think you're accomplishing? Do you feel mentally healthy after doing this to yourself for hours? Do you think the people you're arguing with will all of a sudden see things your way?
     
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  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Unifying the belts gives team GGG the advantage on paper the fake TKO streak (against lesser comp ect...) the casuals eat that sh*t up.

    But the REAL fans of the sport understand competition and the dues a fighter pays inside the ring to attain quote "A-side" status. Nobody cares about belts being handed to you or that you won them off fighters that have losing records ect...

    Anyway the newest knoch they are going for is selling out arena's in NY, LA & now the UK they will sell Golovkin a a ticket sensation.

    Those dudes know how to sell product man... the sheep are eating it up.
     
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  3. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    its no worse than the guys that come on here and act likes hes an ATG for beating c level mws....or the guys that excuse him ducking ward....or the guys that make every excuse in the book as to why his resume isnt good...or the guys that excuse not taking challenging himself or moving up....no worse than the guys that call more accomplished fighers cowards or dumb for "making business decisions" ...but tell us ggg is making smart businesss

    i love poking holes in all of this....its great...because im a boxing fan...and i love revealing the people who live vicariously through fighters and exposing them....as fraud boxing fans just hoping to get a rise out of a certain group of people....because of their inferiority complex

    i dont even break a sweat doing it either...thats the beauty

    yer the guy writing 80k word essays about how the mw divisions is actually good...LOL
     
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  4. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    EXACTLY....these guys hide behind unifying when they want to duck a fight or dont wanna make a move or take a challenge
     
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  5. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    As polished as I find Kell Brook his struggles vs Carson Jones leave a haunting doubt in my mind (I'm not even including the glaringly obvious difference in size and weight relative to their exp in ring)

    Ward is taking on the bigger threat here that can't be argued....well maybe it could but you'd sound pretty foolish. Still GGG fighting a "name" like Brook is a step in the right direction all in all refreshing.

    If Ward were to beat Kov and then subsequently take on and defeat GGG he would be this generations greatest product...if he's already being considered that. Like most on here his lack of activity has been disappointing to say the least, its unfortunate I enjoy watching the man operate the sweet science machine.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're not going to change anyone's mind, its an act in futility, all you do is fight with them, they think you're crazy, and that hardens their stance on him, and you get nowhere.

    At least with my 80k articles, I get my point across, try not to be too argumentative, and let it speak for itself, if they agree they agree, if they don't they don't.

    As far as my articles go, I don't break a sweat either. I sit and extemporaneously type, go back proof read to make sure I didn't belabor the point and hit submit.
     
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  7. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ya gotta understand Rat... At this very moment there is not a person on Earth, weighing up to160lbs, who isn't expected to not just lose, but get stopped by Gennady Golovkin. That's not hyper bowl, that is the majority opinion and most logical opinion for every single opponent GGG could be matched with and has been matched with since 2008.

    There's nothing fake about that. That is pretty serious stuff. There are not very many fighters in boxing history we have achieved that kind of notoriety.

    If you are so filled with hate, or simply so un-intelligent that you cannot acknowledge this, or realize that it makes GGG kind of a big deal, you may want to take a look in the mirror and reconsider who the casual is
     
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  8. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    thats cool...and guess what? you arent going to change my mind either
     
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  9. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I'd use overemphasize instead of freaking belabor...that's just me though
     
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  10. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    wow...awesome...a division filled with mostly c level fighters..with a couple of b's....awesome....he can be the "Bernard hopkins" of his era at mw....

    but its funny...if ggg were someone else theyd be demanding he to have fought ward at 168...instead of making exuses for him not....understand that only a casual is interested in seeing a guy dominate a fairly weak division

    bernard didnt reach legend status till he went up and fought real good fighters at 168 and 175...say it was forced by age or weight issues or whatever u wanna call it...he did it...and thats why hes a legend

    I HAVE NEVER denied ggg has skills ...or that he is good...i think he is...but what hes doing? we get it...we know ...weve seen it...nows its the equivalent of the class bully picking on a special ed kid

    ggg shows no willingness to become a legend....any other fighter would have been murdered for ducking a 168 showdown with ward......guys like you let it slide for numerous reasons...i dont care to see a guy stay put and beat c leve comp.....maybe a guy like you enjoys that or thinks its great

    I DONT....have a good one
     
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  11. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unifying all four belts one of the original eight weight divisions is a ploy to protect oneself? Wow, you gotta admit... That's a helluva good ploy for a coward to pull off 😳
     
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  12. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    wow...awesome...a division filled with mostly c level fighters..with a couple of b's....awesome....he can be the "Bernard hopkins" of his era at mw....

    but its funny...if ggg were someone else theyd be demanding he to have fought ward at 168...instead of making exuses for him not....understand that only a casual is interested in seeing a guy dominate a fairly weak division

    bernard didnt reach legend status till he went up and fought real good fighters at 168 and 175...say it was forced by age or weight issues or whatever u wanna call it...he did it...and thats why hes a legend

    I HAVE NEVER denied ggg has skills ...or that he is good...i think he is...but what hes doing? we get it...we know ...weve seen it...nows its the equivalent of the class bully picking on a special ed kid

    ggg shows no willingness to become a legend....any other fighter would have been murdered for ducking a 168 showdown with ward......guys like you let it slide for numerous reasons...i dont care to see a guy stay put and beat c leve comp.....maybe a guy like you enjoys that or thinks its great

    I DONT....have a good one
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    What's wrong with belabor? :lol:
     
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  14. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hopkins was older than golovkin when he finally moved up, i believe. i like your new approach of trying to post something constructive. even if you still slip in a milder form of trolling. as for your question, i guess whoever the network thinks brings in the most money, will be the a side.
     
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  15. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    you do realize he wasted about 2 years watching the wbc belt get passed around at catchweights right? and took money to let it happen? and had the belt dumped to him and didnt win it in the ring? sounds like a guy eager to unify for his "dream"

    LOL
     
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