Ward... Punching power???

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  1. crazy8s

    crazy8s Active Member Full Member

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    This notion just popped in my head. So I was curious to hear other opinions.

    Given the fact that Ward was able make Froch respect his punches (if even just a little bit), and given the fact that Ward was able to stop Dawson (the weight did affect him but I don't think anyone seriously had Ward stopping him), is it possible that maybe we've all underestimated Ward's power just a little bit?

    And given theat fact that Bute's chin isn't the best, does anyone think Ward has a chance of legitimately stopping him?

    I'm not dumb enough to think I can prohibit trolls, but I'd actually to hear some legitimate opinions on this.
     
  2. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    I think yes..... prior to the Super Six tournament, Ward had a decent KO ratio. No, he didnt get a KO/Stoppage in the tournament, but then again, they were all mostly A caliber opponents and no one else got a KO/TKO, except the brute AA at the very end of the Taylor fight (i think he was the only one?)

    Ok, he COULD HAVE gotten Green out, but then again, he was fighting against the constraints of the tournament. Risk on getting his opponent out and possibly getting caught and stopped, or assuredly win the fight to help ensure a quarter-final entry? In the tournament, it was best to play it safe instead of recklessly, though you were awarded another point in a stoppage.

    I think the post-Dawson version of Ward has lot more confidence in his punching power than the prior version, and he'll probably look into stepping into his punches more often, as he's seen a direct result
     
  3. BoxingJunkie

    BoxingJunkie New Member Full Member

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    He is putting the pieces together. I think he is learning how to KO people now. Froch said he is strong, but he didn't say Ward had punching power like that. That's what I see too.
     
  4. crazy8s

    crazy8s Active Member Full Member

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    I was reluctant to bring up Froch because dude's chin is crazy lol. But I completely agree. With Ward... it's almost as if Virgil won't let him rely on what ever power he does have until he's mastered the basics lol. I've been following Ward since the amatuers and honestly it's exciting to see a fighter being "constructed" the right way.
     
  5. BoxingJunkie

    BoxingJunkie New Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  6. crazy8s

    crazy8s Active Member Full Member

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    True. I think a lot people don't take into account the fact that Ward has improved since then. I was skeptical after the Bika fight. But with Froch and Dawson he's starting to show improvements again.
     
  7. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    Bika is one of the most under-estimated Super Mids.... and Ward fought the new&improved version too...

    Bika proved to be extremely mentally strong.... the only fighter ive seen where Ward couldnt mentally brake him down in the end... Bika DID get frustrated a good bit, but he never lost his aggression or his appetite to win, unlike all other opponents
     
  8. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he's much like Mayweather, people think that because they don't have high KO ratios that opponents can walk through them. It's simply not true though, both hit hard enough to keep you honest they just don't have that one punch KO power.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    You're forgetting the Johnson stoppage over Green.

    On topic, I always thought Ward had underrated pop. He's just measured and intelligent in his approach, so it doesn't always translate into knockouts. But he is also a master of setting traps to hit guys with the worst type of shots - ones they can't see coming or defend.

    That will make any foe reluctant or hesitant, regardless of the raw power impact itself.
     
  10. crazy8s

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    Yea with the Bika fight, I wasn't upset because of what kind of fight it was. I was more upset with the fact that I really didn't see any technical improvements. But you're right though, Bika makes everyone he fights look bad lol. A lot of people forget that.
     
  11. crazy8s

    crazy8s Active Member Full Member

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    I think a lot of people forget the value of a perfectly-timed punch. Well said.
     
  12. godlikerich

    godlikerich Active Member Full Member

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    Ward has OK power. His run of opponents didn't really allow for knockouts during the super six. I mean Kessler has a very good chin indeed, and had never been floored up that point. Bika is a physical animal and again, has a very good chin. Abraham has a good chin too and just holds his massive forearms up in that shell with his chin down and is very difficult to stop. And as for Froch, well, his chin is legendary isn't it? Anyone who hits Froch and he will say 'nah they didn't hit that hard' because shots just don't seem to faze him. The only person Ward should have stopped who he didn't was Green IMO. Any way every fighter can punch hard compared to the average person. Hell, if Paulie Malignaggi hit you with his best punch, it's going to hurt.
     
  13. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    What about Miranda?
     
  14. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ward has average to ok power. Good, at best. He surprised Froch with his physical strength on the inside, more than anything. The punches didn't bother him. He said so even after the fight. He was hurt more by Taylor, Dirrell, Pascal and Kessler. Even Johnson. But Ward's power didn't faze him as much as those guys'.

    As for Bute: well, considering his weak-ass chin, I'd actually be quite confident of Ward stopping him late. He'll outbox him at range and rough him up on the inside, to the point where Bute wouldn't have much left by the.
     
  15. the commentator

    the commentator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ward has good punching power. However he the only reason he doesnt have that great a KO ratio is primarily becasue he is a thinking fighter who obviously knows how to pile up points and doesnt want to sacrifice a sure win for an unnecessary chance for the KO.....