Ward should have moved up to LHW sooner.

Yeah, if he as mature adult was natural by modern standards HW boxer, then he never had been even to be able to make even this 175 lbs weight in in 175 lbs limit.
I suspect that with proper planning for schedule like for 1 year Patterson and Marciano had been able to make this one : 175 lbs weight in limit.
Marc was 184-185, rarerly 188, Pat approx 190 without any special dieting to make weight, not alone to talk about water cut etc.

By modern pro standard he is not even middle size CW boxer, not alone HW.

 

Jesus Christs some posters.....ANYONE from 168 to CW cam move up to HW if they wanted. The thing is, how effectively can they do it while maintaining their essential status quo on themselves. That's why many times, guys moving up go division by division, sometimes testing the waters with their new weights and form. Could Ward or Beterbiev move to HW? Of effin course they can. It's not hard to just put on weight. But to do it properly, would take many years.

 

Kov won the first fight. Got robbed. Even Ward knew it.

My point was Kov was much better early on when Ward could have moved up, ie after the Super Six SMW. At that point in time Kov leaves no doubts.

 

Fat if without peds for sure.

Still not anyone is able to perform well in higher weight classes, there are also things like height, reach, for example I think Russel Jr did had better choice than Loma etc a lot of examples.

 

Agreed. Dumb dumbs on this board think EVERYONE can move up and SHOULD move up in weight several classes and be P4P. It's little kids who see boxing like a video game.

 

I'm interested about a lot of things you state in your posts regards to Usyk"s purses vs Huck, Briedis and Gassiev, also you did not had posted how much Usyk had get for fight vs Bellew and a lot of things.

May I ask you to provide more details about how you had calculated Usyk's income from pro boxing?
Of course I know that you might not know sponsorship and ad deals and maybe even about bounses etc like things.

You once had posted that Usyk had fought vs Briedis for 200k.
I wish to get clarification: you maybe mean sum AFTER management and team, sparring expenses and taxman ?Like clear take home?
Or he is someone like Durodola to fight vs Briedis for approx 200k? before expenses paid off?

If about fight vs Huck, usually with world title and successful defenses under belt at CW bare bidding minimum for europe is approx 150 k eur to start with.
So I guess, if you had assumed that Usyk had get 150k eur for fight vs Huck ( before expenses and tax ofc ) I had been intended to believe more than if there had been listed 75k. Also I have not enough grounds to believe that Usyk migh had agreed to fight vs Briedis for 200k before expenses, management fees and etc + taxes deducted from this.
If you had stated >400k eur, I had more intent to believe.

 

Would have been huge if the Dawson fight was at 175. Would've coined Ward as simultaneous double lineal champion (and very legitimate lineal titles).

 

https://www.sportekz.com/boxing/oleksandr-usyk-net-worth/

 

Ive never said any fighter should move up weights, is should be their choice
canelo & Floyd moved up for easy pickings & to avoid having to fight their real hallengers

 

you are delusional in the true sense of the word.
"ward's professional achievements are not higher than ottke" - seriously?

i know you're german, but you are exactly the reason why paper champions can milk naive hometown fans.

 

Yeah, both were hometown fighters per se in pro ranks and go die with your idol, he was not better than Ottke there for sure.

With things like pro boxing champ belts and HOF, ATG etc noise you might seek attention not from me, live with this and go to the hell with your idols from US and pro boxing belts.

You are very insecure and selfish troll nothing more and go rest here.
aussies and kiwi too are not more welcomed than these EE boxers for big game, ate this reality here. Ate and laugh.

You are so scared about thing that some boxers had balls and mind to be tickets sellers and hometown fighters besides your worshiped US, sorry, they does not need nor aussie nor kiwi champs like EE boxers as these champs.

U are really delusional that I will ever appreciate pro boxing belt or HOF etc noise thing.
I don't care about this. Ottke afforded to be like Ward and Canelo in his country and you feel hurt and insulted?

All these pro boxing belts are pieces of paper for me, live with this and yell my little troll in internet.

 

I might suggest you not to buy such websites as estimation of someone's net worth.
A. Minimal warranted purse is not full payment for fight, especially if boxer had won in tournament fight.

B. Promoters does not know boxer's deals with sponsors, ad deals and other stuff like this kind of possible income.

C. Ukraine, while being post soviet country turned into capitalistic country had kept some old traditions.
I don't know how much these so called premium payments Usyk had for his am career but I suspect that more than enough to afford elite level training, flat, car. I don't think that like very rich but this is what this is in such countries.
Also not only government, the same klits bros too had supported elite level am sport stuff in Ukraine.

Regards to mentioned here purse for Huck fight I might partially agree in case if Usyk had considered that Huck after Briedis fight is enough easily beatable for him.
For Briedis fight 200k? looks like not Usyk's level fighter purse for sure.
Risk / reward purse for fight vs prime Briedis and Gassiev looks in this link very small by euro level here.
Huck fight btw too a bit. If he isn't in prime shape, otherwise he was not bad and only approx 3 months older than Briedis.


If about boxers income, they might have advertisement deals etc like stuff, btw especially for Ukraine if you are internationally proved am superstar ad deals etc might be not bad.

 

make a poll and watch people laugh in your face.
you're comparing a german fighter who faced nobody, against a SMW king who proved he was best in his division, and then went up a division and fought kovalev twice too.

make a poll asking people who was the better fighter.

i dare you

 

you still dont get it.
fight in the US, get career-defining fights, fight in germany...and you don't.

 

you can't make this **** up.
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