Ward stripped of Ring Super Middleweight title

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  1. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Once again, I'm mystified you keep struggling with this.

    I asked WOULD Ward leave Jokeland to fight the A-side champ, I didn't ask DID Ward leave Jokeland to fight in a contractually obligated neutral location (even though it wasn't neutral) from over two years earlier in a 50-50 split to fight Froch.

    A grip? Get one.
     
  2. Clinton

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    I'm mystified that you will (the future, not would) simply not answer the question proposed to you which was did you purposely or not ask WOULD Ward leave JOAKLAND to fight the a side champion- when he ALREADY HAD, lol. Actually I'm not mystified. I fully don't expect you to.
     
  3. Clinton

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    Couldn't agree more.:good
     
  4. Robney

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    :lol:
    I guess we all should just shut up once we take a look at the likes of Willard and Sullivan :yep
     
  5. Super Hans

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    I've answered you every post, I'll put it in capitals so you can understand- NO WARD WOULD NOT BE WILLING TO LEAVE CALI TO FIGHT FROCH.

    And, no he hasn't left Jokeland to fight the A-side champ. Never.

    The terms of the Super Six dictated 50-50 so there was no A-side, and it was meant to take place in a neutral venue which it didn't Froch was on foreign soil. Ward was in the USA. Saying Ward was not the home fighter would be like saying Froch wasn't the home fighter if he fought Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam on the south cost.

    If what I'm saying is wrong then answer this- would Mayweather be willing to fight his next fight outside Las Vegas? No he wouldn't, like Ward wouldn't be willing to fight outside California. Hence him pricing himself out and requesting $83million:

    [url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/boxing/4943541/Andre-Ward-tells-Carl-Froch-50m-London-superfight-fine-for-me.html[/url]

    Ward has not once in his career accepted being the B-side, even against fighters with far bigger fanbases. So once again, I'll answer the question you say I'm refusing to answer in hope you finally get it through your gormless dome- NO WARD WOULD NOT BE WILLING TO LEAVE CALI TO FIGHT FROCH.
     
  6. Clinton

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    Holy ****!!! WARD ALREADY LEFT JOAKLAND TO FIGHT THE OTHER FINALIST FROCH IN THE SUPER 6:lol:::lol:
     
  7. Clinton

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    Unless of course Atlantic City was magically uprooted and planted in Joakland for the fight, lol.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

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    In this instance though, Froch said he had no problem with it being in the US (he preferred Vegas, even then, which is far closer to Ward's home than the slum in Jersey). Froch is on record saying they knew before the start of the Super 6 that all of the semi-final and final matches would take place in the US.

    That I believe was going to be the case regardless of who the final 4 ended up being, and in theory it could have been all foreigners. It just so happened, in this case, that the American was a cut above the rest in his division, which is a rarity these days.

    :smoke
     
  9. Super Hans

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    I know he left Jokeland (but not the USA and has never been considered the away fighter). But that's not what the discussion is.

    Look back on the first page of this thread. A poster indicates if Froch was to become Ring champion, then Ward would beat him for it.

    I asked said poster if Ward would then be willing to leave Jokeland, and take the test against the A-side champ (indicating Ward would have to accept being the B-side- something he has never done) the answer to that is an emphatic no he would not.

    Nothing I said was wrong. You've made a tit of yourself and you know it.
     
  10. Super Hans

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    Yeah Froch didn't have an issue with it. If however the terms of the Super Six indicated the fight had to take place outside of somewhere Ward would'nt been considered the home fighter I doubt their ever would've been a final.

    If you watch this video [url]http://vimeopro.com/joshglaser/fc360/video/14613453[/url] at 10.20 and 16.55, he was almost thrown out before it began with his unwillingness to travel.
     
  11. Rumsfeld

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    Well, I see what you're getting at, but it's a stretch because it was known before the tournament was formally announced that this would be the case, which is not at all surprising given the backing/support of a US cable network.

    Didn't watch yet, but I assume this was after the tournament was signed? Or was it before?
     
  12. Clinton

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    Your quote was would Ward be willing to leave Joakland to fight the a side champion knowing full well that he had ALREADY LEFT JOAKLAND TO FIGHT THE A SIDE CHAMPION. Your words, not mine. So sorry this annoys you. Actually I'm not lol. Don't worry. It's not necessary to answer the question lol as we all know you won't:lol:
     
  13. Super Hans

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    Before, it's during the negotiation period. Goosen almost seems intimidated to have to tell Ward he will have to travel at some point in the first round telling Hersham and the rest of the promoters Andre Ward is not the kind of person you can explain that over the phone to.

    Perhaps Ward should be more grateful to Goosen being because he clearly winged it and got him home advantage throughout.
     
  14. Super Hans

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    He's never left Jokeland TO FIGHT THE A-SIDE champion.

    When did he leave Jokeland to fight the A-side champion. Froch wasn't the A-sde it was 50-50 (and Ward got the A-sde treatment by fighting in the USA) as i've told you a million times.

    So answer this question (I know you won't because you know you're wrong) when did Ward ever accept being the B-side? :think
     
  15. Clinton

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    Ward left Joakland to fight the other finalist of the Super 6 in Carl Froch and beat him convincingly. It gets no simpler than that. You still didn't answer the question. Don't worry. It's ok.